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Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:10 am
by RickD
Recent discussions got me thinking about this question again.

For Christians and Theists only please.

If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:18 am
by IceMobster
I would probably not.

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:39 am
by RickD
IceMobster wrote:I would probably not.
Why or why not?
Knowing that we're talking about your friend or family, and your not attending may possibly ruin your relationship with them, why wouldn't you attend?

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:12 am
by IceMobster
Simply because of what you stated in the last sentence.
I do not support such. Thank God homosexual marriages are not allowed in my country. Hopefully it stays that way.

I don't care in what way that would ruin the relationship.

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:17 am
by RickD
IceMobster wrote:Simply because of what you stated in the last sentence.
I do not support such. Thank God homosexual marriages are not allowed in my country. Hopefully it stays that way.

I don't care in what way that would ruin the relationship.
Ok. Fair enough.

And I don't know why, but I assumed you are American. I should've used my super mod powers before, so I can see you're not. :D

You have a very good grasp of the English language. Is English your native language?

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:28 am
by IceMobster
RickD wrote:
IceMobster wrote:Simply because of what you stated in the last sentence.
I do not support such. Thank God homosexual marriages are not allowed in my country. Hopefully it stays that way.

I don't care in what way that would ruin the relationship.
Ok. Fair enough.

And I don't know why, but I assumed you are American. I should've used my super mod powers before, so I can see you're not. :D

You have a very good grasp of the English language. Is English your native language?
Really, bro? Me, an American?
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I get it, I can be an American living in Europe, but, bruh....
English is not my native language(as can be seen here... http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 39&t=40884)....... :mrgreen:

I'm beginning to think you are too old to be a moderator. :pound:

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:31 am
by RickD
IceMobster wrote:
RickD wrote:
IceMobster wrote:Simply because of what you stated in the last sentence.
I do not support such. Thank God homosexual marriages are not allowed in my country. Hopefully it stays that way.

I don't care in what way that would ruin the relationship.
Ok. Fair enough.

And I don't know why, but I assumed you are American. I should've used my super mod powers before, so I can see you're not. :D

You have a very good grasp of the English language. Is English your native language?
Really, bro? Me, an American?
Image
...
I get it, I can be an American living in Europe, but, bruh....
English is not my native language(as can be seen here... http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 39&t=40884)....... :mrgreen:

I'm beginning to think you are too old to be a moderator. :pound:
Yes, I think you're right. I definitely need to pay more attention to the obvious. Seems I not only missed the forest for the trees, but I missed the trees as well. :oops:

Forgive me Milord. :mrgreen:

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:50 am
by IceMobster
RickD wrote: Yes, I think you're right. I definitely need to pay more attention to the obvious. Seems I not only missed the forest for the trees, but I missed the trees as well. :oops:

Forgive me Milord. :mrgreen:
Oh noes! You have been infected with Vergilbola virus! :shock:

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:53 am
by Philip
If our witness to the world is that we desire to honor God's instructions for living - ESPECIALLY one so basically fundamental to families, children, and the very building block of society - then not going is very important. You can communicate that you love them, but cannot honor their pursuit of a union your faith instructs to be unGodly. How could a mature Christian ever smile and be happy over such a union? I think going sends, at the very least, a warped or confusing sense of affirmation to those seeing you there.

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:03 am
by RickD
Philip wrote:If our witness to the world is that we desire to honor God's instructions for living - ESPECIALLY one so basically fundamental to families, children, and the very building block of society - then not going is very important. You can communicate that you love them, but cannot honor their pursuit of a union your faith instructs to be unGodly. How could a mature Christian ever smile and be happy over such a union? I think going sends, at the very least, a warped or confusing sense of affirmation to those seeing you there.
So Philip,

Are you saying that you wouldn't go? Or are you just one of those Christians who talks the talk, but won't walk the walk? :mrgreen:

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:11 am
by Nessa
RickD wrote:Recent discussions got me thinking about this question again.

For Christians and Theists only please.

If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?
So a christian might argue, that they would go to support the person(s) and not the wedding itself.
But Im not sure you can differentiate. Our old pastor did this with a hetero couple who he believed should not marry and it would be a sin. He refused to marry them but still went to the wedding to 'support' them as individuals. If he believed they were comitting a sin then I dont believe attending was the right thing to do.

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:52 pm
by RickD
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:Recent discussions got me thinking about this question again.

For Christians and Theists only please.

If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?
So a christian might argue, that they would go to support the person(s) and not the wedding itself.
But Im not sure you can differentiate. Our old pastor did this with a hetero couple who he believed should not marry and it would be a sin. He refused to marry them but still went to the wedding to 'support' them as individuals. If he believed they were comitting a sin then I dont believe attending was the right thing to do.
Nessa,

Do you know what the circumstance was, that lead the pastor to believe it was a sin if they got married?

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:14 pm
by Nessa
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:Recent discussions got me thinking about this question again.

For Christians and Theists only please.

If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?
So a christian might argue, that they would go to support the person(s) and not the wedding itself.
But Im not sure you can differentiate. Our old pastor did this with a hetero couple who he believed should not marry and it would be a sin. He refused to marry them but still went to the wedding to 'support' them as individuals. If he believed they were comitting a sin then I dont believe attending was the right thing to do.
Nessa,

Do you know what the circumstance was, that lead the pastor to believe it was a sin if they got married?
Divorce - I believe he had previously already married one of them to someone else then they got divorced. Think they both were?

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:21 pm
by Jac3510
RickD wrote:If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?
I would not attend. To be a little nuanced about it, I don't know that attending necessarily confers your acceptance and blessing, but it does seem at least to imply a show of celebration. Most wedding invitations certainly say something along the lines of, "We invite you to celebrate this occasion . . ." I would certainly wish them happiness (sending them a card or gift or whatever), because I wish all people happiness. But I cannot celebrate the means some people go about attempting to achieve that happiness. Beyond that, gay weddings, while now legalized fully, are still novel enough that the fact of the gay marriage will almost certainly be a topic of conversation. It would be kinder of me not to be a part of that, I think, than to go and say, no matter how politely, that I don't support what is happening.

Re: Invited to a gay "wedding". Do you go?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:29 pm
by Nessa
Jac3510 wrote:
RickD wrote:If you got invited to a gay wedding of a friend or family member, would you attend? Why or why not?

Is attending a wedding, a show of not only celebration, but also your acceptance and blessing?
I would not attend. To be a little nuanced about it, I don't know that attending necessarily confers your acceptance and blessing, but it does seem at least to imply a show of celebration. Most wedding invitations certainly say something along the lines of, "We invite you to celebrate this occasion . . ." I would certainly wish them happiness (sending them a card or gift or whatever), because I wish all people happiness. But I cannot celebrate the means some people go about attempting to achieve that happiness. Beyond that, gay weddings, while now legalized fully, are still novel enough that the fact of the gay marriage will almost certainly be a topic of conversation. It would be kinder of me not to be a part of that, I think, than to go and say, no matter how politely, that I don't support what is happening.
Wouldnt it be better to wish them something like 'true joy'
Because by wishing people happiness, by default arent you wishing for them whatever makes them happy? Because you just desire 'happiness' for them?

True joy however can only come from God
And wishing someone to be happy isn't necessarily always a good thing.

As God, himself, often doesnt seem too concerned about our 'happiness' either.