God, from concept to existence

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Re: God, from concept to existence

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RickD wrote:
hana the rebel wrote:
I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
Do you mind telling us why you were banned after only 2 posts?
I really do not remeber. Probably i do not remeber because I was acting like I normaly act.
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1over137 wrote:I am curious about whether Audie and Kenny would enjoy atheistic forum.

I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
But this is poor statisticis of only one. Not really a statistics.

I have not done any research on 'civility' of atheistic forums. One can hit a place where no normal discussion is possible and one can hit a place where it is.
I was a part of a few.
Very rude, militant and rather ignorant BUT that was what is commonly referred to as the "vocal minority", those that give a typical forum a bad name.
Most were civil and very much "agree to disagree".
On a side note, from MY experience, the most vocal and militant atheists are those that were believers at one point.
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1over137 wrote:
RickD wrote:
hana the rebel wrote:
I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
Do you mind telling us why you were banned after only 2 posts?
I really do not remeber. Probably i do not remeber because I was acting like I normaly act.
Sounds like someone was being naughty! :shakehead:
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Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:I am curious about whether Audie and Kenny would enjoy atheistic forum.

I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
But this is poor statisticis of only one. Not really a statistics.

I have not done any research on 'civility' of atheistic forums. One can hit a place where no normal discussion is possible and one can hit a place where it is.

Never occurred to me to visit an atheist forum.
Would be interesting to see whether you would see disctinction between online atheist on atheistic forums and atheist from your surroundings.

(But it's not an invitation to join some ;). )
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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1over137 wrote:
Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:I am curious about whether Audie and Kenny would enjoy atheistic forum.

I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
But this is poor statisticis of only one. Not really a statistics.

I have not done any research on 'civility' of atheistic forums. One can hit a place where no normal discussion is possible and one can hit a place where it is.

Never occurred to me to visit an atheist forum.
Would be interesting to see whether you would see disctinction between online atheist on atheistic forums and atheist from your surroundings.

(But it's not an invitation to join some ;). )
Its most unlikely that I would be interest to join. I dont need a support group.

tell me the name of it and I could go incog as a "believer'. :D
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RickD wrote:
1over137 wrote:
RickD wrote:
hana the rebel wrote:
I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
Do you mind telling us why you were banned after only 2 posts?
I really do not remeber. Probably i do not remeber because I was acting like I normaly act.
Sounds like someone was being naughty! :shakehead:
Merriam Webster:

naughty
adjective naugh·ty \ˈnȯ-tē, ˈnä-\
: behaving badly
: relating to or suggesting sex in usually a playful way

:esurprised:
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Yrreq has 25 years experience with online ahteists from atheistic forum. They may be different from not online ones.
But like I said, I have not done any research on that.
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1over137 wrote:Yrreq has 25 years experience with online ahteists from atheistic forum. They may be different from not online ones.
But like I said, I have not done any research on that.
You know, they say you'll reap what you are sowing.

From what he was sowing in that post, Id say no research is needed.
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Audie wrote:
You know, they say you'll reap what you are sowing.
Oh the irony!!!!
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Let us all rather get back to topic: God, from concept to existence
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
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1over137 wrote:Let us all rather get back to topic: God, from concept to existence
Is it too much to ask that someone restate the basic concepts being put forth?
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Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:Let us all rather get back to topic: God, from concept to existence
Is it too much to ask that someone restate the basic concepts being put forth?
Audie,

I see it as a rewording of the Kalam Cosmological Argument.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalām_co ... l_argument
And for some reason, my iPhone isn't letting me paste links again!!!!
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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-Edward R Murrow




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Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:
Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:I am curious about whether Audie and Kenny would enjoy atheistic forum.

I once visited one and was banned after 2 posts.
But this is poor statisticis of only one. Not really a statistics.

I have not done any research on 'civility' of atheistic forums. One can hit a place where no normal discussion is possible and one can hit a place where it is.

Never occurred to me to visit an atheist forum.
Would be interesting to see whether you would see disctinction between online atheist on atheistic forums and atheist from your surroundings.

(But it's not an invitation to join some ;). )
Its most unlikely that I would be interest to join. I dont need a support group.

tell me the name of it and I could go incog as a "believer'. :D
Now, that, I'd love to see. Especially when they ask you why you believe in God.

(Sorry for going OT again)
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Okay, Audie, let you and me exchange thoughts.

What is for you the default status of things, for me it is existence: existence is the default status of things.
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Yrreg wrote:Okay, Audie, let you and me exchange thoughts.

What is for you the default status of things, for me it is existence: existence is the default status of things.

I never spent two seconds thinking about the "default status of things", at least not in those terms.

What do you mean by "existence".. I can probably guess. "Default status" tho?
What do you mean by that?
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