Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:28 pm
Nope, that's the executive branch. Read a [love] book, Abe.abelcainsbrother wrote:The Supreme Court is suppose to enforce the laws on the books written by Congress
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Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:38 pm
Nope! Judges enforce laws everyday.Tell us what happens if you committ a crime and go before a judge,what does he do? Enforce the law,he puts you in jail,prison,etc based on the law. He does not make up some new law like liberal judges do.edwardmurphy wrote:Nope, that's the executive branch. Read a [love] book, Abe.abelcainsbrother wrote:The Supreme Court is suppose to enforce the laws on the books written by Congress
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:40 pm
Still wrong.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:29 pm
ACB,
You're wrong. Judges interpret laws. As far as the laws that the Supreme Court interprets, the executive branch enforces them.
You're wrong. Judges interpret laws. As far as the laws that the Supreme Court interprets, the executive branch enforces them.
https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlest ... ches/1.htmOur federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).
The President of the United States administers the Executive Branch of our government. He enforces the laws that the Legislative Branch (Congress) makes. The President is elected by United States citizens, 18 years of age and older, who vote in the presidential elections in their states. These votes are tallied by states and form the Electoral College system. States have the number of electoral votes which equal the number of senators and representatives they have. It is possible to have the most popular votes throughout the nation and NOT win the electoral vote of the Electoral College.
The Legislative part of our government is called Congress. Congress makes our laws. Congress is divided into 2 parts. One part is called the Senate. There are 100 Senators--2 from each of our states. Another part is called the House of Representatives. Representatives meet together to discuss ideas and decide if these ideas (bills) should become laws. There are 435 Representatives. The number of representatives each state gets is determined by its population. Some states have just 2 representatives. Others have as many as 40. Both senators and representatives are elected by the eligible voters in their states.
The Judicial part of our federal government includes the Supreme Court and 9 Justices. They are special judges who interpret laws according to the Constitution. These justices only hear cases that pertain to issues related to the Constitution. They are the highest court in our country. The federal judicial system also has lower courts located in each state to hear cases involving federal issues.
All three parts of our federal government have their main headquarters in the city of Washington D.C.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:41 pm
RickD wrote:ACB,
You're wrong. Judges interpret laws. As far as the laws that the Supreme Court interprets, the executive branch enforces them.
https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlest ... ches/1.htmOur federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).
The President of the United States administers the Executive Branch of our government. He enforces the laws that the Legislative Branch (Congress) makes. The President is elected by United States citizens, 18 years of age and older, who vote in the presidential elections in their states. These votes are tallied by states and form the Electoral College system. States have the number of electoral votes which equal the number of senators and representatives they have. It is possible to have the most popular votes throughout the nation and NOT win the electoral vote of the Electoral College.
The Legislative part of our government is called Congress. Congress makes our laws. Congress is divided into 2 parts. One part is called the Senate. There are 100 Senators--2 from each of our states. Another part is called the House of Representatives. Representatives meet together to discuss ideas and decide if these ideas (bills) should become laws. There are 435 Representatives. The number of representatives each state gets is determined by its population. Some states have just 2 representatives. Others have as many as 40. Both senators and representatives are elected by the eligible voters in their states.
The Judicial part of our federal government includes the Supreme Court and 9 Justices. They are special judges who interpret laws according to the Constitution. These justices only hear cases that pertain to issues related to the Constitution. They are the highest court in our country. The federal judicial system also has lower courts located in each state to hear cases involving federal issues.
All three parts of our federal government have their main headquarters in the city of Washington D.C.
OK just change enforce to interpret and I'm right.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:57 pm
Alrighty then!abelcainsbrother wrote:RickD wrote:ACB,
You're wrong. Judges interpret laws. As far as the laws that the Supreme Court interprets, the executive branch enforces them.
https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlest ... ches/1.htmOur federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).
The President of the United States administers the Executive Branch of our government. He enforces the laws that the Legislative Branch (Congress) makes. The President is elected by United States citizens, 18 years of age and older, who vote in the presidential elections in their states. These votes are tallied by states and form the Electoral College system. States have the number of electoral votes which equal the number of senators and representatives they have. It is possible to have the most popular votes throughout the nation and NOT win the electoral vote of the Electoral College.
The Legislative part of our government is called Congress. Congress makes our laws. Congress is divided into 2 parts. One part is called the Senate. There are 100 Senators--2 from each of our states. Another part is called the House of Representatives. Representatives meet together to discuss ideas and decide if these ideas (bills) should become laws. There are 435 Representatives. The number of representatives each state gets is determined by its population. Some states have just 2 representatives. Others have as many as 40. Both senators and representatives are elected by the eligible voters in their states.
The Judicial part of our federal government includes the Supreme Court and 9 Justices. They are special judges who interpret laws according to the Constitution. These justices only hear cases that pertain to issues related to the Constitution. They are the highest court in our country. The federal judicial system also has lower courts located in each state to hear cases involving federal issues.
All three parts of our federal government have their main headquarters in the city of Washington D.C.
OK just change enforce to interpret and I'm right.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:05 pm
Except that all of your previous arguments about the actions of the SCOTUS are predicated on your erroneous beliefs about the role of the judiciary. So no, changing one word won't fix that.OK just change enforce to interpret and I'm right.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:26 pm
edwardmurphy wrote:Except that all of your previous arguments about the actions of the SCOTUS are predicated on your erroneous beliefs about the role of the judiciary. So no, changing one word won't fix that.OK just change enforce to interpret and I'm right.
Nope! Everything is the same except for changing the word enforce to interpret.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:33 pm
Let's see:ACB wrote:
Nope! Everything is the same except for changing the word enforce to interpret.
Now, with enforce changes to interpret:
The Supreme Court is suppose to enforce the laws on the books written by Congress,which they did not do when it comes to abortion,same-sex marriages,etc.If you want abortion in America you have to run for office being for abortion,which no liberal did,instead they apponited judges that would just ignore the Constitution and write new law.It is not the job of the Supreme Court to write law like they did,they are not legislature's.This proves your polls are wrong and this is why no Democrat ran for abortion and then had laws passed through Congress to make it law.
IMO,
The Supreme Court is suppose to interpret the laws on the books written by Congress,which they did not do when it comes to abortion,same-sex marriages,etc.If you want abortion in America you have to run for office being for abortion,which no liberal did,instead they apponited judges that would just ignore the Constitution and write new law.It is not the job of the Supreme Court to write law like they did,they are not legislature's.This proves your polls are wrong and this is why no Democrat ran for abortion and then had laws passed through Congress to make it law.
It doesn't affect the point ACB made.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:49 pm
Yeah, the exec branch can say "this X is covered under the 14th amendment" but that doesnt mean they cant be challenged on it later judicially.
But for the judicial branch, they cannot be challenged nearly as easily. If the Constitution is the law of the land, then whoever says what the Constitution says has the final word on any matter.
We are political animals by nature, according to Aristotle. Law isn't immune to politics; nothing is.
But for the judicial branch, they cannot be challenged nearly as easily. If the Constitution is the law of the land, then whoever says what the Constitution says has the final word on any matter.
We are political animals by nature, according to Aristotle. Law isn't immune to politics; nothing is.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:08 am
Umm...
Either quotation reveals that the guy doesn't understand the basic facts, so I guess in that respect they're the same argument.
And once we get past the first sentence it's all misunderstanding and ignorance.
Roe v Wade was a challenge to an existing anti-abortion law, so all that needed to happen for abortion to be legal was for the courts to say that the law banning it was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court interpreted the law relative to the Constitution exactly like they were supposed to, and they did not write any new legislation. The polls have been consistent for years and are not wrong, and even if they were wrong the crap that Abe is calling proof is nothing of the kind. And finally, plenty of Democrats have run as pro-choice candidates and, in any case, that doesn't matter because it doesn't take a law to give people a right, only to take one away.
Long story short, it's all complete garbage and Abe is one of the most profoundly ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune to encounter.
This one is incorrect and reveals (again) Abe's ignorance of basic civics.The Supreme Court is suppose to enforce the laws on the books written by Congress,which they did not do when it comes to abortion,same-sex marriages,etc.
In this one the first part is factual but incomplete (and implies that Abe knows things that he does not). The second part is completely wrong and reveals Abe's ignorance of how the courts work and also of recent history.The Supreme Court is suppose to interpret the laws on the books written by Congress,which they did not do when it comes to abortion,same-sex marriages,etc.
Either quotation reveals that the guy doesn't understand the basic facts, so I guess in that respect they're the same argument.
And once we get past the first sentence it's all misunderstanding and ignorance.
Roe v Wade was a challenge to an existing anti-abortion law, so all that needed to happen for abortion to be legal was for the courts to say that the law banning it was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court interpreted the law relative to the Constitution exactly like they were supposed to, and they did not write any new legislation. The polls have been consistent for years and are not wrong, and even if they were wrong the crap that Abe is calling proof is nothing of the kind. And finally, plenty of Democrats have run as pro-choice candidates and, in any case, that doesn't matter because it doesn't take a law to give people a right, only to take one away.
Long story short, it's all complete garbage and Abe is one of the most profoundly ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune to encounter.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:34 am
There is such as a thing as "warranted" belief and then "mere" belief. On this issue, you have the latter and we have the former. Knowledge is quite plainly on our side here.edwardmurphy wrote:That's your belief. It's not the only belief.
Just look up a biology textbook on when human life begins, any animal life. Recommend to you Googling Secular Pro-life and reading their materials, as no doubt, and I'm presuming, you've bought into thinking such a religious issue, when in fact it's biological. Objective science is on our side. Subjective opinion grasping at straws to make some "soulish" personhood distinction based upon a woman's birth canal on yours. Biology sees no difference, a human life IS a human life, and when does biology say human life begins?
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:58 am
Exactly. Why can you kill a child in the womb, but once he's born and you do so, it's instantly considered murder? What has changed? It's still a human being, only at a different size/stage - just like those differing stages will continue throughout our lives, from ever-growing robustness to decline, often helplessness. The ONLY issues that should be considered: Is that a human being in the womb or not? Is it right to take a human life or not? All sorts of wordplay won't change the facts surrounding those questions. Again, if little Eddie's mom and aborted little Eddie at 2 or 3 months - she's taken the life of what? Of ED! Ed was once a developing child in his mom's womb.K: Just look up a biology textbook on when human life begins, any animal life. Recommend to you Googling Secular Pro-life and reading their materials, as no doubt, and I'm presuming, you've bought into thinking such a religious issue, when in fact it's biological. Objective science is on our side. Subjective opinion grasping at straws to make some "soulish" personhood distinction based upon a woman's birth canal on yours. Biology sees no difference, a human life IS a human life, and when does biology say human life begins?
If there is nothing sacred about human life - as opposed to other life - then why does society think premeditated murder a hideous thing, but that McDonald's contracts with the beef and slaughterhouse industries is just fine and dandy? Big Macs are yummy? (Ugh) Why is eating animal flesh universally enjoyed and celebrated, but cannibalism is shockingly sick?
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:10 am
Guys,
Edwardmurphy is a fact driven, scientific minded person. I have confidence that he will agree with us once he has actually looked at this. We all know this isn't a religious issue, but one of science.
Give ed a chance to actually study this, and he will realize what we're saying.
Edwardmurphy is a fact driven, scientific minded person. I have confidence that he will agree with us once he has actually looked at this. We all know this isn't a religious issue, but one of science.
Give ed a chance to actually study this, and he will realize what we're saying.
Re: From You to George Washington
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:00 am
RickD wrote:Guys,
Edwardmurphy is a fact driven, scientific minded person. I have confidence that he will agree with us once he has actually looked at this. We all know this isn't a religious issue, but one of science.
Give ed a chance to actually study this, and he will realize what we're saying.
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