Re: KJV only version that's inspired?
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:01 pm
What Five Pointers typically believe is not that every action a person takes is predestined, but that salvation AND non-salvation are.
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Start a 'read the bible' in a year thread and maybe a few of us can do it together.RickD wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:06 pmThis forum uses NASB, when verses are posted. Since I've been here, I've grown used to the NASB. For me, it's easy to understand. So, I mostly use NASB, when reading. When studying, I mostly do that online, so I use different translations.Nessa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:45 pmWhat version do you read now?RickD wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:03 pm Nessa,
If you are able to read the KJ, then I say go ahead. Personally, I have too much difficulty with the King James.
It's best to get a good translation that you like.
A while back, I used to read an NIV study bible. But I found there to be too many opinions in the study notes, that distracted me from the scripture itself.
The word for highly esteemed, in Daniel 10:11, is chemdah, which means precious. Someone who is precious to another, is beloved, or held in high esteem.Nessa wrote:
In Daniel, the NIV says gab said Daniel was 'highly esteemed' but KJV and NKJV says greatly loved or beloved.
I see piper and some others recommending ESV
You've reminded me that I really need to read more than I have been. I've been neglecting it lately.
I would love the esv study Bible but it costs a fortune... Though alot of bibles here do.Philip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:52 pm NASB is very good. Many Bible scholars like the ESV. And the ESV Study Bible also offers a virtual library of information, maps, history, archaeological discoveries - it's an absolutely amazing resource! The footnotes do have a, mostly subtle, Calvinist influence - that I wouldn't have noticed if I'd not been looking for it due to knowing a bit about the backgrounds of some members of the translation team. But it's not blatant or offensive. The best translations are not interpretation-driven. Nonetheless, certain decision must be made in the process.
It's $31 shipping for me and that's US dollars....Philip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm Ness, 50 bucks! https://www.christianbook.com/esv-study ... gIzNfD_BwE
Why not read it online?Nessa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:01 amIt's $31 shipping for me and that's US dollars....Philip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm Ness, 50 bucks! https://www.christianbook.com/esv-study ... gIzNfD_BwE
Basically I'd be paying the same for shipping as the actual item.
I'll put it on my Xmas list perhaps.... And just hope Santa was looking the other way when I was being naughty![]()
Yes, that's easy - and there are a couple of free apps to do so. But beyond being a good translation, what makes the ESV Study Bible so great is all of the info, history, maps, scientific findings - a ton of great supplemental stuff. It also addresses heresies, etc.Why not read it online?
I like that in a way, but the issue can be, in tricky passages, that a translation morphs into an interpretation - thus interjecting man's opinion of what the author was writing as opposed to what the actual intent was (BTW, I don't believe the author's in Scripture ALWAYS perfectly knew ALL of the meanings and intentions of what they'd been inspired to write). So, the closer to actual meaning a translation is, the better. However, our sensibilities and perceptions related to our own language can be tainted by culture and tradition. For instance, the King James version sounded perfectly natural to people of the culture and time it was written, but can be very awkwardly understood by us today.For instance, consider this familiar passage from Psalm 23: “He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake” (KJV). The Voice puts it like this: “He provides me rest in rich, green fields beside streams of refreshing water. He soothes my fears; He makes me whole again, steering me off worn, hard paths to roads where truth and righteousness echo His name.…