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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:53 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Just testing your Engrish skills

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:08 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Just testing your Engrish skills
When all else fails resort to racial slurs.

You've hurt me, you've hurt me bad.
I'm going to go cry now.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:18 pm
by Jbuza
If science can speculate that a common ancestors exist that we see no material evidence for than it can speculate that God exists.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:29 pm
by Believer
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Science speculates that Christianity originated out of Israel. What is the evidence for this?
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Besides the bible, you're bible was not printed 2000 years ago.
Obviously, and why do you not capitalize Bible? A book and/or a collection of books need to be capitalized. And by saying "you're bible", what do you subscribe to, what religion? Answers man, answers!

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:30 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Jbuza wrote:If science can speculate that a common ancestors exist that we see no material evidence for than it can speculate that God exists.
The funny part is I just came to that realization reading Systematic Theology by Berkhof...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:48 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
Believer wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Science speculates that Christianity originated out of Israel. What is the evidence for this?
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Besides the bible, you're bible was not printed 2000 years ago.
Obviously, and why do you not capitalize Bible? A book and/or a collection of books need to be capitalized. And by saying "you're bible", what do you subscribe to, what religion? Answers man, answers!
I'm talking about science.
Science requires evidence.

If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation. That is what my point is.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:52 pm
by Believer
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:
Believer wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Science speculates that Christianity originated out of Israel. What is the evidence for this?
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Besides the bible, you're bible was not printed 2000 years ago.
Obviously, and why do you not capitalize Bible? A book and/or a collection of books need to be capitalized. And by saying "you're bible", what do you subscribe to, what religion? Answers man, answers!
I'm talking about science.
Science requires evidence.

If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation. That is what my point is.
Notice I replied to your second quote, not the first :roll:. Missing the point again BGood :wink:?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:58 pm
by Forge
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:When all else fails resort to racial slurs.

You've hurt me, you've hurt me bad.
I'm going to go cry now.
Go back to your cage, you emo.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:59 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
Believer wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:
Believer wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Science speculates that Christianity originated out of Israel. What is the evidence for this?
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Besides the bible, you're bible was not printed 2000 years ago.
Obviously, and why do you not capitalize Bible? A book and/or a collection of books need to be capitalized. And by saying "you're bible", what do you subscribe to, what religion? Answers man, answers!
I'm talking about science.
Science requires evidence.

If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation. That is what my point is.
Notice I replied to your second quote, not the first :roll:. Missing the point again BGood :wink:?
The quotes belong to one coherent idea. Being that science doesn't use only the bible as evidence for conclusions.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:00 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
Forge wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:When all else fails resort to racial slurs.

You've hurt me, you've hurt me bad.
I'm going to go cry now.
Go back to your cage, you emo.
What's an emo?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:03 pm
by Jbuza
If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation.


Jesus Christ being born there.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:08 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
Jbuza wrote:If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation.
Jesus Christ being born there.
How does science know this? Were you there?
I deleted this post, because I realized I have no interest debating this. However Believer picked up on it before it was deleted. I'll just leave this issue open.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:12 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
BGood, that is not the domain of science. That's like asking a medical doctor if a new wing component can withstand 10 G forces...duh?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:14 pm
by BGoodForGoodSake
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:So, it cannot be verified unless it can be stuck in a test tube basically? So we just toss out non-Christian sources, Jewish sources (Josephius for example), and Christian sources (four gospels, Paul, early church fathers)
Of course in our personal lives its hard to throw out a text which has survived more than a thousand years.

But science needs more than this to reach a conclusion. If multiple disciplines and findings lead to a conclusion, it makes that conclusion stronger.

Josephius, the bible and other references from Roman texts support that indeed Jesus was a real person.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:18 pm
by Jbuza
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:
Jbuza wrote:If science speculates that Christianity originated in Israel, what is the basis of this speculation.
Jesus Christ being born there.
How does science know this? Were you there?
I deleted this post, because I realized I have no interest debating this. However Believer picked up on it before it was deleted. I'll just leave this issue open.
sure. sure. Yet you accept evolution. Where you there? You have only heard or read reports of 99.9% of scientific investigation. To a certian extent we must accept the report of credible sources and test to see if it is reasonable and logical.

I see no reason for you not to debate that Christianity started outside Isreal, it has the same evidence as those phylogenetic charts you talk about.