Gman wrote:
Santa wrote:Another thing I've wondered (once again assuming god exists): what happened to the people born BEFORE the bible hit the shelves? Or people who are incapable of even reading the bible. If there's any special considerations, doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of even putting any of us here? Seems like a strange way for god to go about things.
Answered here..
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... heard.html
That doesn't answer anything for me. Isn't that a flaw in god's plan if there's people who'll go their entire lives without even knowing of the bible's existence? And even those that do, like me, who never come to a conclusion on whether or not it's to be believed - we either simply don't exist, are separated from god or are literally sent to hell because of that?
What if an agnostic or atheist was generally a better person than some of the believers? Tough luck? Don't believe in god, so you're sent to hell? Like I said before, that doesn't seem fair.
It's almost as though those who aren't aware of the bible are given a free ticket in. If not, then you can only assume they're wiped out of existence or sent to hell. Once again that doesn't seem fair.
jlay wrote:Serious question Santa. Does Hitler deserve this type of pain? I'm sure you are aware of his crimes.
I might've exaggerated a bit there. But still, since when is god big on revenge? It'd seem a better idea to wipe someone like him out of existence.
jlay wrote:
This is all I have for now. Nothing against your question, but this board attracts a lot of drive by posters. Who stop in ask a question, assume that we are to take them seriously, and then evaporate after someone makes a sincere response.
Myself and others will be glad to answer questions if you are sincerely seeking answers.
All my questions are serious.
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I just wanna know what your thoughts are.
Gabrielman wrote:
I don't see it as a metaphor. Hell is utter seperation from God. Those who choose in life to be away form Him have that in death. He will not choose for you, He will let you decide where you want to be. It was actually an old Jewish idea that "hell" as it is now termed, was/is seperation from God. Yes many Churches over the years have changed it bit by bit, but the original idea was being seperated form God. Tell me this, would it be fair for God to force you to be with Him if you didn't want that? However without Him you will feel empty, and have no desire to go on, we were made for God, to be with Him, without Him it is hell. I could be in some eternal paradise, but if God was not there, it would be hell.
So what if your parents sent you to another country after you were born so that you weren't forced to to be with them - and waited until you found your way back? It'd be a out there wouldn't it? Isn't that essentially the same thing that god's supposedly done?
It all seems a bit pointless to me. Weren't 'angels' created in 'heaven'? Apparently they were able to make a choice on whether or not they'd like to be with god. But the thing is, they at least knew of his existence. We don't, which seems pretty unfair.