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I'm not advocating a free for all without perameters and I know that this site stands for certain beliefs and so I respect this.
Catherine (and others),catherine wrote: You...say you 'guess' the quotes [by Jefferson & Lincoln] are fabrications. I find that this surprising that you 'guess' and don't 'check' if you doubt the quotes!!
Sure, at least for a while...catherine wrote:Hi Zebulon, I hope you will be continuing to post on this thread and forum.
Yup I tought so,but not as yet.catherine wrote:Your last post sounded like you were 'leaving us'.
Yes, it is like that. They need our help. You see I think that if someone tries to convince, it is because he does not believe himself what he or she is trying to make you believe. It is a human factor. So now, I am, myself, trying to convince you that I do not believe myself what I am trying to make you believe. It is a human factorcatherine wrote: I stopped coming here for about six months and have only been visiting again recently, as I have found the attitudes of some here, or how they respond, not very tactful or loving.
This is so true. My father is an athist. Well he say so. As a question, Atheism does not exist. Simply speaking they just lack of trying to make you believe in what they say they do not. Believing in nothing is believing in the fact that one believes in nothing. So then he has to prove that he believes in nothing to be convinced of not believing in... and so on.catherine wrote: It's important to discuss and even challenge ideas or beliefs that seem contrary to our own beliefs, or should I say the accepted beliefs of this web site (which represents mainstream Christianity I think), but we have to be careful we don't alienate people by coming over as haughty, impatient, rude (at times) and negative.
RIGHT! So tell me about trinity. It is a question I would like to understand more. I am reading Carl Gustav Jung actually, his book biography My Life, and I find in this man very interresting things. He is a true believer in his own word, in his very own experience of life. And let me say to you that this man helped a lot of people in needs to get out of sufferings.catherine wrote: I believe that loving others, as you describe, is far more important than being right over a certain doctrine. I could spend hours studying about hell or the trinity, (and I have) or whatever and still not be sure, when I could be out helping others.
So do I.catherine wrote:P.s
I'm not advocating a free for all without perameters and I know that this site stands for certain beliefs and so I respect this.
The bible is just a book. The only way to God is Jesus-Christ and he and his words are mentioned in millions of other books. Even in the QuRan. To me thats way anought. I see him more and more everywhere. And everywhere he can be dismissed, mocked, baseballbatted (is this a word?). But everything seems to come back to him. Where He said so.Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote: It is way too easy to fall into the trap of believing that the Bible isn't the only way to God
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:When I saw that Zebulon was pushing his worldly ideas, I stepped in because I thought you (Catherine) were falling for them. (Thankfully, Zoegirl and B.W. also joined the conversation in defense of the faith.)
I think this is true. And I am very happy that you bring it up. So did Jesus, the first one to bring it up so clearly. And it did not changed in 2000 years like he said so, until his coming back. And we have to face it. This world is govern by the devil and his main tools are lies and mammon. This is why God is not for sale.catherine wrote:We have to be careful with our involvement with politics as this world is governed by the god of this world, the devil.
Very interresting ideed. I follow some links and foud this one with Hey Jude song from Paul McCartney that I was greatfull to see in a 3 hour show here in Quebec city last summer.catherine wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0371055528
What will strike you is that what he alludes to back in 1994 is now happening and I can't help think of the stuff in Revelation and what he is talking about as being related. See what you think. It's about 45 minutes long and I guarantee that if you give it five minutes you will enjoy it.