Becoming a Saint

Discussions on ecclesiology such as the nature, constitution and functions of the church.
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Byblos wrote:
FFC wrote:
Byblos wrote:Ah but you see, your 'flawed' fellow christians that are in heaven are not so flawed after all as nothing impure can enter heaven (Rev. 21:25


That is my point. If we can ask those perfect christians in heaven to pray for us, why ask anybody down here besides the fact that we are told to do so?


Because we're a community of believers and a single body in Christ, flawed or otherwise. As to why we aren't told to ask our perfect believers in heaven to pray for us in scripture (although I think we are but I promised not to use those), it could be because heaven was empty before Christ and the gospel writers were the first saints to enter heaven after Christ (ergo they didn't have the opportunity to explore the idea in detail as there was no frame of reference so to speak). This is where not just the deuterocanonical books but also oral tradition come into the picture (and partly why the RCC does not hold to Sola Scriptura as some things we believe were revealed after the gospels were written).
It is definitely something interesting to think about. Do you think Mary will listen to a protestant's prayer? :wink: :lol:
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FFC wrote:Do you think Mary will listen to a protestant's prayer? :wink: :lol:


I don't know, you might need a special permission from the Vatican for that (extenuating circumstances). I'll get back to you on that. :lol:

Or you could just conv..., ok bad idea. :twisted: :lol:
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Byblos wrote:Or you could just conv..., ok bad idea.
...yeah...hey, bad for who!? :x :? :lol:
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FFC wrote:
Byblos wrote:Or you could just conv..., ok bad idea.
...yeah...hey, bad for who!? :x :? :lol:
I'll take the fifth on that one.
Let us proclaim the mystery of our faith: Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.

Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
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