It is very simple to prove the existence of God

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It is very simple to prove the existence of God

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It is very simple to prove the existence of God

But, a supra-intellectual mental process must be carried out. One must think of oneself not as the thinking entity, but as a part of the Cosmos, of the Universe.

If we think this way, we will understand that science, the existing laws, such as thermodynamics, gravity, allow us to understand that there is an active universe, acting as a whole, with perfect integration of everything.

Nothing, absolutely, nothing can escape the universal laws, some of which we are beginning to understand, although very partially (such as those mentioned, plus the atomic laws, electromagnetism). And biology does not escape universal laws either. And the human psyche, feeling, deciding, thinking, are in complete harmony with cosmic laws.

Once this is so basic understood, we will understand that our existence, our minds are the cosmos thinking, deciding, feeling through us. We are a creation of the cosmos, and nothing happens by chance, therefore, before the Cosmos exists, human existence, biological life, the planets, everything, absolutely everything was planned.

....nothing cannot plan anything.... only a will, an intelligence, a feeling, of an entity that created these aspects of the mind, can have created everything, a Cosmic mind.

But, if not existing is prior to existing, this means that before the creation of the Cosmic mind, there existed a non-finite state (we can not called Cosmic mind), that is, infinite, the true absolute, from which everything is generated, which controls everything, in the which everything disappears.

And why a single infinite entity and not several? Infinity is absolute, it cannot be qualified or quantified, it cannot be thought, it cannot be felt, it cannot be modified...
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Re: It is very simple to prove the existence of God

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margii wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:58 am It is very simple to prove the existence of God

But, a supra-intellectual mental process must be carried out. One must think of oneself not as the thinking entity, but as a part of the Cosmos, of the Universe.
Hello, Margii, and welcome to the forum!

What you have described is merely New Age thinking or a version of pantheism. And how do you KNOW it's true? From what evidences? Feeling? T
Your religious teachings and tradition?


See here: https://carm.org/hinduism/the-practical ... pantheism/
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Re: It is very simple to prove the existence of God

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Philip wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:30 am
margii wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:58 am It is very simple to prove the existence of God

But, a supra-intellectual mental process must be carried out. One must think of oneself not as the thinking entity, but as a part of the Cosmos, of the Universe.
Hello, Margii, and welcome to the forum!

What you have described is merely New Age thinking or a version of pantheism. And how do you KNOW it's true? From what evidences? Feeling? T
Your religious teachings and tradition?


See here: https://carm.org/hinduism/the-practical ... pantheism/


Dear Philip

Thanks for the welcome.

I do not agree with the concept of "new age" (a non-existent concept, because there is no definition of such and it is used according to each person's criteria), nor with the fact that it is not true proof.

Yes, it is pantheism, and also beyond pantheism, because pantheism only refers to the fact that the phenomenal, what we know, is God, and beyond pantheism because pantheism does not refer to God in an absolute state, beyond relative existence.

Evidence? The same proofs of science... has anyone ever demonstrated directly, not with human intellectual interpretations with technology, if an atom exists?

I don't know your scientific or professional studies, but I base myself on current scientific criteria, because I am a Biochemist and Pharmacist (as well as a lawyer), and I think and analyze the concept of God with the same methodology that a scientist understands, with a imagined model, what an atom can be like (when the human mind cannot and will never be able to, with the intellect, understand what an atom is)
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Re: It is very simple to prove the existence of God

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Continuing with the analysis, one of the many scientific interpretations of why the Cosmos is an integrated entity...

A single entity, perfectly integrated, implies an order, an intelligence, a mind that orders everything (chaos cannot generate anything ordered). And this is the Cosmos.

The increase in entropy in every process is accepted as an (almost) universal law (I say almost, because neither gravity nor anything can be demonstrated absolutely in the entire Universe, for obvious reasons).

Let's analyze this issue of the increase in entropy (do not ask for a definition, because it is an issue that cannot be explained, beyond the fact that some speak of an increase in disorder, this is not the case): any process that occurs implies that the environment takes carried out in an integrated way.... that is, nothing is isolated in the universe, nothing can be isolated.. including our desires and thoughts.

When we think and decide, we do so integrated with the Cosmos, through the (at least for the moment only known) laws of thermodynamics... In other words, it is the cosmic laws that allow us or not to think, to decide. .. We believe in our subjectivity that it is us, but no.

That is to say, cosmic laws are not only those that allow us or not to do or think, but they are the same ones that make us desire or not, feel or not, etc...
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