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Fliegender wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:06 am
RickD wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:17 am I found out yesterday that between 52 and 53% of my hospital’s employees got the Covid vaccine. So basically, one out of every two people in the hospital, who have been on the frontlines of this Covid issue for the last year, decided NOT to get the vaccine, despite a huge “marketing” campaign by the hospital, to get the vaccine.
Yeah, but you’re in a red state so that may explain the low IQ vaccination rate among your coworkers. Things may change now that Prophet Trump (pbuh) has recommended his disciples get vaccinated. (It’s significant that both He and the Holy Mother were secretly vaccinated before they left the White House.)
Holding my breath for Philip’s holier-than-thou diatribe, vilifying FL for relentless sarcasm, and belittling people...

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Fliegender wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:06 am
RickD wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:17 am I found out yesterday that between 52 and 53% of my hospital’s employees got the Covid vaccine. So basically, one out of every two people in the hospital, who have been on the frontlines of this Covid issue for the last year, decided NOT to get the vaccine, despite a huge “marketing” campaign by the hospital, to get the vaccine.
Yeah, but you’re in a red state so that may explain the low IQ vaccination rate among your coworkers. Things may change now that Prophet Trump (pbuh) has recommended his disciples get vaccinated. (It’s significant that both He and the Holy Mother were secretly vaccinated before they left the White House.)
And for all the ecstatic folks who just can't wait to get injected with experimental vaccines, what do you make of this.

Vaccination in Israel: Challenging mortality figures?

Analysis by infectious disease specialist claims mismatch between data published by authorities and reality on the ground.

A front-page article appeared in the FranceSoir newspaper about findings on the Nakim website regarding what some experts are calling "the high mortality caused by the vaccine."

The paper interviews Aix-Marseille University Faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Unit's Dr. Hervé Seligmann and engineer Haim Yativ about their research and data analysis. They claim that Pfizer's shot causes "mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly, when the documented mortality from coronavirus is in the vicinity of the vaccine dose, thus adding greater mortality from heart attack, stroke, etc."

Dr Hervé Seligmann works at the Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Research Unit, Faculty of Medicine, Aix-Marseille University, Marseille, France. He is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality. He has a B. Sc. In Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written over 100 scientific publications.

FranceSoir writes that they follow publications, data analyzes, and feedback from various countries on vaccination, and have therefore taken an interest in the Nakim article, asking to interview them in order to understand their analysis and its limitations.

The authors of the article declare they have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel.

After a presentation, the authors discussed their data analysis, the validations carried out, limitations, and above all, their conclusions that they compare with data received via a Health Ministry Freedom of Information Act request.

Their findings are:

- There is a mismatch between the data published by the authorities and the reality on the ground.
- They have three sources of information, besides the emails and adverse event reports they receive through the Internet. These three sources are Israeli news site Ynet, the Israeli Health Ministry database, and the U.S. federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database.
- In January 2021, there were 3,000 records of vaccine adverse events, including 2,900 for mRNA vaccines.
- Compared to other years, mortality is 40 times higher.
- On February 11, a Ynet article presented data related to vaccination. The authors of the Nakim article claim to have debunked this analysis based on data published by Ynet itself: “We took the data by looking at mortality during the vaccination period, which spans 5 weeks. By analyzing these data, we arrived at startling figures that attribute significant mortality to the vaccine."
- The authors say “vaccinations have caused more deaths than the coronavirus would have caused during the same period."
- Haim Yativ and Dr. Seligmann declare that for them, "this is a new Holocaust," in face of Israeli authority pressure to vaccinate citizens.

They also invite specialists to complete their analyses, and intend to pursue legal follow-up to their discovery. The Health Ministry was not available for comment on a FranceSoir query regarding the findings.

The authors also deplored "the fact of not being able to communicate on this vital information" to their fellow citizens.

On their site, Nakim writes: "On February 11, 2021, Ynet (the most known Israeli News website) published a confused and confusing article entitled 'Vaccination efficiency data in Israel, and its rapid effects on the young'.

"Our reanalyses of these data explain why during the massive vaccination project initiated mid-December 2020 during a confinement, daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases failed to decrease as they do during confinements, and, more importantly, why numbers of serious, critical, and death cases increased during that period that covered at least one month. From mid-December to mid-February (two months), 2,337 among all Israeli 5,351 official COVID-deaths occurred. Our analyses indicate orders of magnitude increases in deaths rates during the 5-week long vaccination process, as compared to the unvaccinated and those after completing the vaccination process. Presumably, asymptomatic cases before vaccination, and those infected shortly after the 1st dose, tend to develop graver symptoms than those unvaccinated.

"The Ynet article is organized in an exciting way and uses data provided in an erroneous way by the Ministry of Health. It is unclear whether this was intentional to prove the vaccine's efficiency or if this was done erroneously because the provided data were misunderstood. Note that in Israel, all vaccines are from Pfizer.

"The data in the table, rather than indicating the vaccine efficacy, indicate the vaccine's adverse effects," the authors conclude.
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Stu wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:25 am And for all the ecstatic folks who just can't wait to get injected with experimental vaccines, what do you make of this.

Vaccination in Israel: Challenging mortality figures?
Here's a quick Fact Check
Fact check: No evidence that the vaccine for COVID-19 caused fatalities in Israel
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2TS
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False. There is no evidence the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has caused any fatal reactions among recipients in Israel.
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DBowling wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:06 am I'll be taking another road trip tomorrow... but this time for my wife.

My wife has not yet received the same notification from our health care provider that I did last week for a covid shot, so she has been searching pharmacies for available covid shots. She finally found one yesterday... 2 hours away :esurprised:

Since I love my wife dearly and have an enormous vested interest in her health and wellbeing, I am taking the day off work and we are going on a road trip date tomorrow.

It will be interesting to see which shot she gets.
Just got back from our covid vaccine road trip.
My wife is feeling well after her first shot, and her second shot is scheduled for 4/9.
I'm getting my second shot on 4/2, so we should be good to go by the end of April.

The only slightly odd reaction that I noticed was my wife's decision to pull up 'Ride of the Valkyries' on her cell phone during the ride home.
But I wouldn't consider that to be anything serious.
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DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:31 am
Stu wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:25 am And for all the ecstatic folks who just can't wait to get injected with experimental vaccines, what do you make of this.

Vaccination in Israel: Challenging mortality figures?
Here's a quick Fact Check
Fact check: No evidence that the vaccine for COVID-19 caused fatalities in Israel
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2TS
VERDICT
False. There is no evidence the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has caused any fatal reactions among recipients in Israel.
Facts are not wanted.

Conspiracy theorists, Qanon believers, anti-vaxxers and people who are just afraid are not going to be interested in facts. They will continue to repeat the same mantra that the vaccines are dangerous / that many have died but the info is hushed up /that the whole thing is aimed to turn us into obedient sheep and to steal our freedom / that Bill Gates is making a fortune on the pandemic... On the loony fringe, they say that microchips and nanorobots are injected along with the vaccines to track our movements and control us.

Crazy is as crazy does.
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DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:42 am ...
My wife is feeling well after her first shot, and her second shot is scheduled for 4/9.
I'm getting my second shot on 4/2, so we should be good to go by the end of April.

The only slightly odd reaction that I noticed was my wife's decision to pull up 'Ride of the Valkyries' on her cell phone during the ride home.
But I wouldn't consider that to be anything serious.
:)
OMG...it has started already! your wife must be very sensitive to the nanorobots!

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Fliegender wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:19 pm
DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:31 am
Stu wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:25 am And for all the ecstatic folks who just can't wait to get injected with experimental vaccines, what do you make of this.

Vaccination in Israel: Challenging mortality figures?
Here's a quick Fact Check
Fact check: No evidence that the vaccine for COVID-19 caused fatalities in Israel
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2TS
VERDICT
False. There is no evidence the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has caused any fatal reactions among recipients in Israel.
Facts are not wanted.

Conspiracy theorists, Qanon believers, anti-vaxxers and people who are just afraid are not going to be interested in facts. They will continue to repeat the same mantra that the vaccines are dangerous / that many have died but the info is hushed up /that the whole thing is aimed to turn us into obedient sheep and to steal our freedom / that Bill Gates is making a fortune on the pandemic... On the loony fringe, they say that microchips and nanorobots are injected along with the vaccines to track our movements and control us.

Crazy is as crazy does.
If that’s not the pot calling the kettle black. You’re the one who said:
“Yes, hospitalizations and deaths are down because of the vaccination campaign. That’s the only reason.”

Ignoring the fact that there are many people who have already recovered from Covid, so cases are on the decline. Covid hospitalizations being down is at least partly due to that fact that you conveniently ignored. And Covid deaths are down at least partly because doctors and nurse are better at treating Covid patients. I told you that this is specifically the case in my hospital and others that I know of. Another fact that you conveniently ignore.

FL,

You are entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.
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Fliegender wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:32 pm
DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:42 am ...
My wife is feeling well after her first shot, and her second shot is scheduled for 4/9.
I'm getting my second shot on 4/2, so we should be good to go by the end of April.

The only slightly odd reaction that I noticed was my wife's decision to pull up 'Ride of the Valkyries' on her cell phone during the ride home.
But I wouldn't consider that to be anything serious.
:)
OMG...it has started already! your wife must be very sensitive to the nanorobots!
Ah... you caught it :P
And yes... that was my rather oblique way of indicating that my wife also received the Pfizer vaccine.

But no kidding... we did listen to Ride of the Valkyries as a little celebration.
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DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:34 pm
Fliegender wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:32 pm
DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:42 am ...
My wife is feeling well after her first shot, and her second shot is scheduled for 4/9.
I'm getting my second shot on 4/2, so we should be good to go by the end of April.

The only slightly odd reaction that I noticed was my wife's decision to pull up 'Ride of the Valkyries' on her cell phone during the ride home.
But I wouldn't consider that to be anything serious.
:)
OMG...it has started already! your wife must be very sensitive to the nanorobots!
Ah... you caught it :P
And yes... that was my rather oblique way of indicating that my wife also received the Pfizer vaccine.

But no kidding... we did listen to Ride of the Valkyries as a little celebration.
:)
Nanorobots, and Red Herrings aside, I hope the vaccines work as advertised for you and your wife, so you can get back to living normally soon.
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RickD wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:12 pm ...
Nanorobots, and Red Herrings aside, I hope the vaccines work as advertised for you and your wife, so you can get back to living normally soon.
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RickD wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:12 pm I hope the vaccines work as advertised for you and your wife, so you can get back to living normally soon.
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DBowling wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:42 am
DBowling wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:06 am I'll be taking another road trip tomorrow... but this time for my wife.

My wife has not yet received the same notification from our health care provider that I did last week for a covid shot, so she has been searching pharmacies for available covid shots. She finally found one yesterday... 2 hours away :esurprised:

Since I love my wife dearly and have an enormous vested interest in her health and wellbeing, I am taking the day off work and we are going on a road trip date tomorrow.

It will be interesting to see which shot she gets.
Just got back from our covid vaccine road trip.
My wife is feeling well after her first shot, and her second shot is scheduled for 4/9.
I'm getting my second shot on 4/2, so we should be good to go by the end of April.
I managed to totally dodge any side effects associated from my first covid shot, but my wife was not quite as fortunate as I was.
Last night she got a headache and became nauseas. (and yes... I do think that was from the covid shot)

I gave her acetaminophen for the headache (which is ok for treating vaccine side effects) and gave her fluids until she finally fell asleep. At around midnight her immune system calmed down and the side affects went away.
My wife is back to her normal self this morning. :)

This part of getting vaccinated was no fun at all.
But it did prepare us for what to watch out for when we get our second shots in early April.

Until then, there is some very encouraging news from Israel regarding the Pfizer vaccine.
The effectiveness of the first Pfizer dose is around 85% after 10 days. Even before the second dose which pushes the effectiveness over 95%.
I got my first vaccine 8 days ago so I'm either at or close to the 85% effectiveness range.

We are both looking forward to the end of April when we will both be safe from Covid and life can begin to return to something resembling normal for us. It will be great when a 'date' involves going out to dinner and a movie instead of taking a 2 hour road trip to Rite Aid. :)
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We are both looking forward to the end of April when we will both be safe from Covid and life can begin to return to something resembling normal for us.
I hope this helps you stop living in fear. Personally, I can’t understand what you’re going through, and rationally, I just don’t understand how people are so afraid of a virus that has virtually no chance of causing any real harm to almost everyone who it comes in contact with. Other than having to wear a mask at work, and a few random stores I enter, life has been pretty normal here.
And I sincerely hope that you and your wife don’t encounter any of the side effects more prevalent with the 2nd dose.


I guess I didn’t realize how fearful you were of this until your last post. Are you old or/and have preexisting conditions that you think would cause you greater harm if you got Covid?
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RickD wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:22 pm
DBowling wrote:
We are both looking forward to the end of April when we will both be safe from Covid and life can begin to return to something resembling normal for us.
Are you old or/and have preexisting conditions that you think would cause you greater harm if you got Covid?
My wife and I are both in mid to upper 50s with preexisting conditions.
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DBowling wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:03 am ...
I managed to totally dodge any side effects associated from my first covid shot, but my wife was not quite as fortunate as I was.
Last night she got a headache and became nauseas. (and yes... I do think that was from the covid shot)

I gave her acetaminophen for the headache (which is ok for treating vaccine side effects) and gave her fluids until she finally fell asleep. At around midnight her immune system calmed down and the side affects went away.
My wife is back to her normal self this morning. :)

This part of getting vaccinated was no fun at all.
But it did prepare us for what to watch out for when we get our second shots in early April.
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The side-effects to the Pfizer vaccine your wife experienced were the same symptoms I had when I got Covid-19 (except I was ill for 4 days) . I have yet to be vaccinated but my turn will come within the next two weeks. My wife was also ill with a Covid 19 but she had it worse than I did: shortness of breath, fever, aches and so on, as well as two one-day hospital stays. She got the Pfizer vaccine two weeks ago and had no side effects whatsoever. (Although she did make sauerkraut for dinner once.)

Don’t anticipate your wife will have any side effects as she will have developed antibodies by the time she gets her second shot. The most common side effect remains a sore arm...(and maybe a passing taste for schnapps).
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