Discussion about scientific issues as they relate to God and Christianity including archaeology, origins of life, the universe, intelligent design, evolution, etc.
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by PaulSacramento » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:33 am
https://www.livescience.com/no-single-g ... tification
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The researchers could not find any one gene linked with same-sex sexual behavior. Five genetic variants did appear significantly linked to sexual orientation, and thousands more also seemed involved to a lesser extent.
In the end, the scientists could not find any genetic patterns that could be used, in any way, to identify a person's sexual orientation. Instead, the predisposition to same-sex sexual behavior appeared influenced by a complex mix of genetic and environmental influences. That's also the case for many other human traits, such as height.
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by Philip » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:08 am
Ultimately, we have all inherited a sin nature that is part of human DNA - meanining we each have sinful things that we are naturally attracted to, but that we CAN and should resist. And the degree of that resistance will be far more successful when we are submitted and committed to the Lord and dependent and prayerful upon Him in our struggles. Left to my inner desires, monogamy wouldn't be a certainty - along with many other temptations.
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by RickD » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:45 am
I can confirm that there IS such a thing as "gay gene".
I went to school with a guy named Eugene, who was gay.
We called him "Gay Gene".
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by Nessa » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:15 am
RickD wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:45 am
I can confirm that there IS such a thing as "gay gene".
I went to school with a guy named Eugene, who was gay.
We called him "Gay Gene".

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by Stu » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:04 am
And don't forget about demons creating that homosexual lust.
Here's a video of a man who was delivered from homosexuality by the blood of Jesus.
Only when the blood runs and the shackles restrain, will the sheep then awake. When all is lost.
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by Nessa » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:21 am
Stu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:04 am
And don't forget about demons creating that homosexual lust.
Here's a video of a man who was delivered from homosexuality by the blood of Jesus.
Sid Roth is dodgey as
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by Stu » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:05 am
Nessa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:21 am
Stu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:04 am
And don't forget about demons creating that homosexual lust.
Here's a video of a man who was delivered from homosexuality by the blood of Jesus.
Sid Roth is dodgey as
Did you watch the video?
Are you saying his guest is lying about what happened?
Only when the blood runs and the shackles restrain, will the sheep then awake. When all is lost.
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by Philip » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:45 am
Whether lust is encouraged by humans or demonically inspired, ultimately, a human has the ability to resist the temptations - particularly with God's power!
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by Nessa » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:11 am
Stu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:05 am
Nessa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:21 am
Stu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:04 am
And don't forget about demons creating that homosexual lust.
Here's a video of a man who was delivered from homosexuality by the blood of Jesus.
Sid Roth is dodgey as
Did you watch the video?
Are you saying his guest is lying about what happened?
No, just saying I'm wary of people who go on the show
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by Blessed » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:02 am
I tell atheists - if there was a gay gene evolution would have weeded it out from the gene pool. Because homo-no-mo no have no kids.
They usually don't have a response other than laughing, changing the subject or calling me names.

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by Seraph » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Whether homosexuality is nature or nurture, one thing is very clear: it isn't a choice. At no point does a homosexual person say "I think I'll start being attracted to members of the same biological sex now". Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison. Homosexual attraction in a person is more akin to something like being left handed. There isn't any particular gene for left handedness, its a bunch of environmental factors working together.
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by RickD » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:52 am
Seraph wrote:
Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison.
Where it becomes a valid comparison, is when one commits homosexual
acts.
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by PaulSacramento » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:27 am
Seraph wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Whether homosexuality is nature or nurture, one thing is very clear: it isn't a choice. At no point does a homosexual person say "I think I'll start being attracted to members of the same biological sex now". Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison. Homosexual attraction in a person is more akin to something like being left handed. There isn't any particular gene for left handedness, its a bunch of environmental factors working together.
You may be confusing being a homosexual with engaging in homosexual acts.
From the perspective of sin, being Gay is not a sin BUT engaging in homosexual activity is.
From the scientific point of view:
There is NO genetic evidence for a person being born gay, it SEEMS to be a combination of various genetic factors AND the environment ( nature AND nurture).
Engaging in homosexuality IS a moral choice, as is engaging in any sexual activity.
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by Seraph » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:52 pm
Keeping in line with my earlier comparison, that is essentially the same as saying "it is not depraved to be left handed, only to write with your left hand".
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by RickD » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:59 pm
Seraph wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:52 pm
Keeping in line with my earlier comparison, that is essentially the same as saying "it is not depraved to be left handed, only to write with your left hand".
I'd love to hear the rationale behind that!
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