Kenny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:28 amFrom post #82RickD wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:47 amCome on Kenny!
You said that X equals cells, and Y equals God.
And you said that there's scientific empirical evidence that X always existed.
You might want to go back and read what you wrote.
Consider the possibilities concerning “X”&“Y”. There is empirical evidence and scientific proof concerning the existence of X, but no empirical evidence nor scientific proof concerning the existence of Y.
1. “X” was never created because it always existed.
2. “X” was created by “Y”
My view is, scenario 1 sounds more logical and practical than scenario 2.
Now in this scenario, “X” represents the cell, and “Y” represents God. I never said I had proof (or even believed) that “X” (cells) had an eternal existence, I was just saying the likelihood of them having such an existence sounds more practical to me than “Y” (God) creating them. After all, if they did have an eternal existence, how would we know?

How would we know if cells were eternal? We know they're NOT eternal, because they change. Entropy shows us that they're not eternal.
Something eternal, has to be unchanging. And for the life of me, I cannot think of anything that would be said to be unchanging. Can you think of something that's said to be unchanging?
