abelcainsbrother wrote:Yes this is true in this world before Adam and Eve sinned there was no death,but when they sinned death passed to all men. You know the former world perished completely which is why the earth is in a without form and void state.It is uninhabitable until God gets done and rests on the seventh day. The tower of babel effected this world. It does not matter if there was death in the former world with a pre-Adamic race in it,but there were many kinds of life as the fossils show. The no death before Adam thing is a strawman when it comes to Gap Creationism. Also reading bible commentaries from Gap Creationists is no different than somebody going to AIG or young earth creation science ministries and going by what they teach. This is why I said accepting the Gap Theory does not effect anything else in the bible,because it is all after the gap between the former world and this world we live in since Adam and Eve. The bible is a book of redemption and God restoring what was lost until he is finally finished.crochet1949 wrote:Oh, yes, I Am familiar with the Gap Theory of creation.
Why would there Need to be a Pre-Adamic race of beings. Because some of us don't believe there Was one. Because -- that means that people were dying. According to Genesis 1 or 2 -- one of the penalties for Adam and Eve eating the fruit -- they were to die instead of living Forever as the original plan had been. So -- apparently everyone who would have been around Before that would still be alive at that time. But Genesis tells specifically how Adam was formed and then Eve. So apparently there were No other people before then.
Slightly different subject -- but -- along the same lines. Your thoughts concerning the virgin birth of Jesus.
How about the Tower of Babel / God's creating the languages and thus separating the people from the large population to gravitate to smaller groups -- the people were Forced to find others of the same language to be able to communicate and thus spread out into new land. Thus -- the various groups of people would inbreed and various cultures came into being -- various physical features became more pronounced over time. Thus, the various Indian groups, etc. I don't know about the time line, but your comments are interesting.
We Do have some evidence of a 'previous' world , but only in the spiritual realm. Because there Was a war in heaven -- 1/3 of the angels rebelled along with Lucifer and were thrown down here to earth. That was when Lucifer became satan / serpent/the great deceiver. He approached Eve about the fruit -- after God had given just One command - Don't eat the fruit of that one tree (knowledge of good and evil) -- She went ahead and ate some Anyway as did Adam.
Isn't it just as possible that That was the reason for earth being destroyed? Because in Heaven -- God had created the spiritual world -- the various kinds of angels -- Lucifer was created at the most beautiful of all -- He was God's right hand man so to speak. But he wasn't satisfied with that -- Lucifer wanted it All. He couldn't have it and he and his followers were thrown out.
And we Are told that mankind was created 'just a little lower than the angels'.
"The no death before Adam is a strawman when it comes to Gap Creationism' -- Maybe that's one reason I wouldn't agree with Gap Creationism -- because Genesis tells us that there was No Death before Adam. The 'wages' of their sinning was physical death to all of us -- which indicates that they Would have lived forever -- No death. But they Did eventually die. And, Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden and barred from the tree of life -- because IF they got to That -- they Would live forever in their sinful state of being. So -- God Did provide a means for sinfulness to be Forgiven. The cross.
And, yes, the Bible IS the book of redemption -- so that we Can have the opportunity to experience life in heaven on earth -- with God -- no more pain, suffering, etc. but Only because we've accepted Jesus Christ as our personal Savior.
And, yes, Something produced those fossils. And there are those who attribute That to the world-wide, global flood. And that happened a bit later in Genesis. And That resulted in the world being 'turned upside down, inside out' literally.