ChristianScientistAnn wrote:B.W. I like the verses in Romans 5 as much as I like all the rest of the Bible. It's my favorite book. Sorry to disappoint. Ann
Daniel, Thanks for your question. I like depending entirely on God in every thing, because it hasn't failed me. Slow or fast, all the health issues and other issues (employment, finding lost objects, decision making, everything) have been solved through Christ, whether it happens instantly or over a period of years. It works. It's a way of life. I have restricted my examples to a tiny percent of the ones that have happened to me. Every Wed. evening I hear testimonies from others, and then there's the testimonies in our periodicals over the course of more than a hundred years. Ann
Phillipthecurious, You have found lots of references to medicine in the Bible. You will find uncountable references in the Bible, especially the New Testament, to spiritual healing. Jesus taught it. If you had lived back then, he might have taught you too along with the 70 he sent out. If I know how to fix my car, I don't have to go to the mechanic. I do respect doctors as people and their work is much needed. Two close friends and a loved relative are doctors. Ann
(Off topic comment. I have just checked out the "Beliefs" page on this website. I had thought this website was just a free for all, but now I see that when people come to this website, they are virtually walking into a church with set beliefs!! These set beliefs are partly in agreement with my own and partly not. By walking into your "church" (website) I open myself to being the subject of the day, the focus of your attentions!! And naturally, you will all start to work on what we don't have in common because you want me to be like you. That isn't interesting to me, because I'm not searching for a new religion. Also, I think my behavior has been rude in light of this. If I had a reason to visit another denomination, I wouldn't waltz in and say, "Anyone had any healings lately?" I would just be quiet.)
Yes, I too like theses verse from Romans too as they remains me of what the Lord has done...
Rom 5:1-2 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God
I like that, justified by His Grace alone through faith (Eph 2:8-10c) we have peace with God because what Jesus accomplished, not what I do, not by tapping into secrets of science, not by what others say I must do or not do but by what Jesus, alone, accomplished. What He accomplished is given as a free unearned gift bought for by the blood of Love shed... This love bled so I can wake up and see what really defines sin to save me from being banished away from God's love forever... into a place without love or hope or God.
Rom 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; 4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly
Here I draw comfort that no matter what comes my way, he will see me thru it all and never let me go. Healings are by his sovereign decree, and if he elects to say no - that is okay. He is in charge, not I. All trials and sufferings are real and not illusions and expose the nature of evil, and sin in profound ways - conquering these. It is thru these, we become transformed into whom God destined us to become, his adopted sons and daughters to live as his special treasure forever. The Lord sent forth the living person, not a science, not a force, but the very essence of his Spirit - His own living Holy Spirit to seal, equip, sanctify, and empower us to live according to his plans and purposes. No force, no deeds, no science can save us, because we are helpless without Jesus. Notice it says Christ died. No annoiting force can die as it is a force, this Christ is the title of Jesus the Messiah who died for you and I to face the wrath appointed to us and expose the reason for this wrath as well - rebellion against God, living to call our shots, and manipulating God to perform for us based upon what we do and say.
Rom 5:7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
It is through his death upon that cross that exposes what is in our hearts so that we awaken and come to our senses that we need Him to redeem our souls from facing his eternal wrath. This wrath is not sickness, nor is it illusion - it is real and so many need awoken to it so they too can see and return to Jesus...
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
You see, we were enemies to God and only reconciliation comes by his work, not ours. Sadly so many seek to hogwash the need for reconciliation back to God and instead choose their own methods and demand their ways and continue to attempt to manipulate God thru words, beliefs, and incantations to get their own desires to triumph over God's ways. What do you call a person who seeks to toy with you, game you, flatter you, use you to get their gets from you? How have we all done so and even world religions do the same - toy with God, game him, flatter him with words and actions and beliefs just to get manipulate God to bow to our needs, wants, desires? How have you done so?
Without that reconciliation brought thru Jesus' actions upon that cross, we face wrath, God's wrath for all our toying and gaming we do. How much does Christian Science toys with God and seeks to manipulate him and change him into another image not found in the bible? We can talk much about love and hide behind the love placard defined by us but doesn't that seek to manipulate love - God's love - for ones own advantage to escape consequences and shortcomings?
What I like about Romans chapter five is how is reveals these truths and so much more. How we need a savior and a savior from what...
From what Matthew chapters 26-27 reveals....
Bible quotes are from the NASB