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Tpatt17 wrote:Is it fair that a fast food worker would make the same as a doctor?
Where did you get that idea? Intellectually more demanding jobs are paid higher, everywhere. That has nothing to do with socialism.Tpatt17 wrote:People who have a higher more important Job (Doctors, Densists etc.) should be paid higher.
The Soviet Union was a communist country. Big difference.Tpatt17 wrote:The soviet Union collapsed and it was socialist, we are a free market country and that's what helps our economy.
What does "freedom" have to do with socialism? Socialism is an economic system, in which enterprises are owned either by their employees (workers' self-management) or the State (state socialism), or combined. You can have a democratic government and personal freedoms along with a socialist economic system.Tpatt17 wrote:Socialism is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Too many people don't get the whole truth, from the left wing cable news, or papers. American's iare poorly uninformed about current issues, do the research yourself, really look into socialist ideas, really study it: compare it to our wonderful free country.
The socialism that is spoken of today and which America (through Obama) is embracing is not the same as in the days of Communism and red pinkos. Socialism today is a means of bringing down capitalist societies in order to open up the world to a global society. It embraces open trade, shared environmental issues and eventually shared economies. Already the Pope is calling for a world bank.Seraph wrote:In the political world today, a common word we see come up is the word "socialism". This word is often used by many to paint the possible future America under liberals as a hellscape of horror. I thought I'd start a thread to discuss, what is so bad about socialism? Some say that it punishes hard workers and deincentivizes people from working, while others say that it is more in line with Jesus' teachings of helping the poor and less fortunate and solves a lot of the injustices that spring up in a purely lassez faire capitalist system. What do you think?
Note: I am not a Socialist. I only start this to start an interesting dialouge.
I think it is significant that no American has answered your question. In my capacity of an old man who has travelled a lot, I'm not surprised. Americans are a very nice people, probably the nicest people I've ever met. They are always willing to help, have a ready smile, they say Have a nice day! and really mean it. They are altruists, gregarious, curious, wonderful. American restauraunts serve HUGE portions of food at low cost; this trait best exemplifies the American character: generosity.Reactionary wrote:So my question to [Tpatt17] is, what's so dangerous about socialism as an economic system? Why would it hinder "freedom" so much in your opinion?
PaulSacramento wrote:Canadians are more awesome than Americans
Not at all. Anyway, there is a great cultural divide along linguistic lines in Canada and one group is very different from the other. Neither group is as nice as Americans. You've got to get out more!PaulSacramento wrote:Canadians are more awesome than Americans
Lies I say, LIES !!!Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Not at all. Anyway, there is a great cultural divide along linguistic lines in Canada and one group is very different from the other. Neither group is as nice as Americans. You've got to get out more!PaulSacramento wrote:Canadians are more awesome than Americans
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Are you an expatriate Canadian now living in a much better country but too proud to admit it?PaulSacramento wrote:Lies I say, LIES !!!
The answer is here:Dallas wrote:I'm bumping this page because I want to discuss something.
I was talking to somebody about Socialism and how I prefer it more than Democracy. I told him it's basically the same as a Democracy, just the government owns some business ,free health care, etc... For reference, he is a Christian man, but he seems to be narrow minded on the subject. What could cause him to be this way? Could one of the reasons be that someone always rises to power and it's not a socialist government anymore?
FLFurstentum Liechtenstein wrote: Well...Americans don't know about socialism and the word scares them. ''Freedom'' is an American buzzword which means - to an American - the quality of not being coerced or constrained to do something or to think some particular way. So...socialism just won't work in the USA because the people don't need to be coerced into being nice or constrained into helping their neighbor.
Just to recap: Americans don't need socialism because they are social.
Wut. What implementation of socialism have you come across where doctors and fast food workers are paid the same?Tpatt17 wrote:Look what happens to socialist countries; Is it fair that a fast food worker would make the same as a doctor?
O! pots and kettles abound.Tpatt17 wrote:American's iare poorly uninformed about current issues, do the research yourself, really look into socialist ideas, really study it: compare it to our wonderful free country.