Challenge accepted.amann wrote:i stumbled across this forum and saw the bashing of atheism or those who do not fully subscribe to Christianity. Well you said you wanted one to come and reply, here i am. im going to post a quote of myself from a conversation i recently had and then i will address each individual in the forum, here it goes.
What do you mean, we can't? There is an entire section of this site (not to mention numerous other) dedicated to the authenticity of the Bible, so you shouldn't have even brought this point up before looking up the relevant data.amann wrote:"lawrence, are you saying that a 2,000 year old text which we cannot factually verify,
http://godandscience.org/apologetics/authenticity.html
Does it matter? I believe the main thing that matters is whether it's true.amann wrote:dont know who actually wrote it,
Wow, three fallacies in a part of a sentence. Promising.amann wrote:and half of the book is nothing but an angry vengeful man in the sky who enjoys long walks through eden and the torture and sacrifice of his own creations is less flawed at explaining the natural world than science as a whole??
1. Straw man+appeal to emotion+arbitrariness (On what do you base your statement that God is angry or vengeful? Your opinion?)
2. That is, simply, a lie. God doesn't torture anyone, humans rebelled against Him. Sometimes we have to learn our lessons the hard way. Problem?
3. Another straw man.
And you obviously need a spelling check. I thought the correct spelling was shepherd.amann wrote:HA, stop being a sheep and be a shepard. you need a reality check dude.
Nasty thing, when a guy from the Balkans corrects your writing in your own language.
That's a cool story, bro, but I don't see what it has to do with God.amann wrote:"the majority is assumed" you say? thats not the case at all, if you knew anything about science you would know that anything can be simulated with mathematical formulas, and you would know that science is moving very fast tword trying to understand the natural world around us. We have already come so far.
The existence of God, as you may not know, doesn't negate the existence of natural world.
Yet none of what you mentioned was written in the Bible (it even suggests a round Earth, as ancient mathematicians were proposing). Nothing that we've discovered throughout the history, is in contradiction with the Scripture.amann wrote:just a few hundred years ago the general consensus was the world was flat, the earth was the center of the universe, and the earth as a whole was only a few 1,000 years old.
By the way, the idea of an old Earth (progressive Creation) was come up with long time before the discovery of radiometric dating.
Or, you can dance to the molecules in your brain, as naturalism proposes, and be a... I don't know, a byproduct of random movement of atoms?amann wrote: you can read a book, take it to heart in the most literal way possible, and think you have all the answers (a sheep) or you can go out and learn about things from multiple sources like the higgs bosen, string theory, evolution, ect. and decide what you believe not from a book but from your own mind (a Shepard)"
Whatever, I just don't know how such chemical reactions could think and be self-aware?
But your sheep vs. "shepard" comparison was very revealing, I must admit. That seems to be the point of atheism - to be your own god and not be held accountable for your actions in this world. There are many people who find this idea attractive, more attractive than Christianity.
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Welcome to the board. Could you please point out what are referring to when you said " KNOW all that stuff"?
