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Post by UsagiTsukino » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:30 pm

Is there anywhere in the bible where it's wrong for Christians to go to doctors? It's just I have been told serval different things. Like how my seizures and medicine shows that I'm not praying hard enough. I mean Luke was some type of doctor. So am I not truthing God enough?

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Post by Nessa » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:55 pm

You haven't given birth have you? :lol:

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Post by Nessa » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:56 pm

Though seriously, God works through doctors. If doctors aren't allowed, then what about dentists? Eye doctors?

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Post by RickD » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:18 pm

UsagiTsukino wrote:
Like how my seizures and medicine shows that I'm not praying hard enough.
Stay away from anyone who tells you this. Stay far away.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

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Post by Philip » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:53 pm

RickD wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:18 pm
UsagiTsukino wrote:
Like how my seizures and medicine shows that I'm not praying hard enough.
Stay away from anyone who tells you this. Stay far away.
Whether someone is healed or not has to do with what God allows as well as how he may or may not intervene. Note that everyone dies - are there not at least a few who prayed sufficiently?

Over 25 years ago, I was sick with a very serious illness that I thought might actually take my life. For many months, no doctor knew what was wrong with me and I got sicker and sicker. And so it crossed my mind that maybe my faith had been lacking and that this was the problem why I wasn't getting well or better. I thought, isn't my faith at least in the mustard seed-size range? And I was praying like I never had before - or since. And during that time, while going from specialist to specialist, I encountered many terribly sick people with all kinds of terrible illnesses - and many of them were undoubtedly people of great faith. And I also had a LOT of people praying for me - so, it wasn't just my prayers that SEEMED (at the time) ineffective. But, eventually, I was diagnosed and VERY slowly recovered. But it took five years - yet with some truly miraculous occurrences along that path. And I do believe - in fact I KNOW - that God had a great hand in A) showing me what was wrong with me (as no doctor ever figured it out, until a non-medical friend gave me some info that fit my symptoms / which saved my life) and then B) leading me to an awesome doctor who guided my treatment and recovery.

So, what else did I learn why one my go through an ordeal or illness without God just snapping His fingers with a cure? One is, that God is often more concerned with teaching us extremely valuable lessons and building and strengthening our faith in the midst of suffering or during some crisis, and so, often, He may well have a purpose in our suffering - and I could write a book about all the good that came out of those years for me. And the lessons God wants to teach us and how He wants to change us are far more effective when He's got our full attention and we truly realize how much we really need Him.

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Post by UsagiTsukino » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:00 pm

Someone even told me demons are in me. It's weird. I know I need to read the bible more but I never rejected the bible or Jesus.

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Post by RickD » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:52 am

UsagiTsukino wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:00 pm
Someone even told me demons are in me. It's weird. I know I need to read the bible more but I never rejected the bible or Jesus.
Why would someone say that?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

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Re: Doctors

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Post by DBowling » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:15 pm

UsagiTsukino wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:30 pm
Is there anywhere in the bible where it's wrong for Christians to go to doctors? It's just I have been told serval different things. Like how my seizures and medicine shows that I'm not praying hard enough. I mean Luke was some type of doctor. So am I not truthing God enough?
According to Scripture, there is nothing wrong with going to the doctor.

Luke, who wrote the fourth Gospel, was a doctor (Col 4:14)
Luke travelled with Paul and was with Paul when Paul was in jail (2 Tim 4:11)

So Paul the apostle had no problem spending time with a doctor.

In 2 Cor 12:7-9 Paul tells us about a physical ailment that he had
"Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Paul pleaded with the Lord to take away his "thorn in the flesh" but God did not grant Paul's plea.
This (and many other Scriptural examples) demonstrate that ongoing physical ailments are not necessarily due to a "lack of faith".

If the apostle Paul spent time with a doctor and had physical ailments that the Lord did not cure, then it is pretty clear from Scripture that seeing a doctor is not evidence of a "lack of faith".

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Post by UsagiTsukino » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:47 pm

So yea. These are my stories. People tell me I'm not praying hard enough. And I took that personally because it makes me sad. Like I didn't pray hard enough to save my Grandpa.

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