very interesting thoughts you have about SDAs...smile...interesting to hear what we believe from people who hasnt really put an effort to investigate it themselves...sounds like not many of you have ever really looked into it yourself but only gotten your thoughts from what others says.
I do have to admit I admire a few of you guys for the remarks you gave...about you should know the whole picture instead of only listening to former adventist who have been expelled or left the church. Just imagine if I went to a former Baptist (could be any church organisation) and asked him about if the Baptists were wrong theologically. Which answer do you think you would get?????
Im afraid you would never get a true picture of what they believe from only asked him or her who left.
As one or two of you said...you have to hear the story from both sides before you can get anything out of it....and even more important you have to study the Bible yourself and not rely on others interpretations. Its sometimes painfull having to admit your are wrong and sometimes it unfortunately it leads to either the person leaving or the church have to expell the person because they are teaching wrong teaching.
Only way to judge if its wrong teaching is from comparing to what the Bible says about it.
You are smart enough to know we have been given a mind and to use it to reason. But we do have to remember the Bible must be interpreting itself. Else we end up with 'Jones town' or 'Waco' experiences where people stopped thinking themselves and they only listened to their leaders.
The same thing counts for when you are having marital problems...you would get a balance picture of what was right or wrong by only listening to one part????
Ild never evaluate your church (or any organisation) only from going to non-Christians or former followers of your church...but Ill talk to both groups...but Ill also study your beliefs before I can say I have a solid basis of information evaluate out from. Its like in our court systems (at least in our western part of the world) were we all are judged according to the law of the country...same thing about the Bible...its our law from which we need to base our beliefs on.
So just a little suggestion maybe you should try talk with some instead of getting your information from people who have left our church. Yes, Im an sincere Adventist who beliefs we by actually talking together we gain much more reliable information about each other and our beliefs. Im definitely not afraid of putting the flag up as I know what Im believing simply from I have studied so far.
I dont claim to know everything about the Bible as I simply dont recall every single detail Ive read. I still studying and Im open for learning new things which sometimes I didnt see at first. This can even happen when reading the same text several time. If I meet an question I dont know the answer to Ill study it and then give you an answer.
Yes I do believe EGW is a prohet...BUT she is NOT supperior to the Bible and the Adventist _doesnt_ set her higher than the Bible as some of you were saying. Some adventist might do...but I can assure you its not the churchs beliefs. Again do I base my experience from just a few people or do I actually look into what the church states it beliefs.
The Bible is Gods word...if I want to lead people to God...I refer them to the Bible. BTW....FYI....EGW refers to her own writtings as them being 'the lesser light leading to the bigger light (the Bible). What does this mean?...it simply means that she tries to describe God and Christ in a way that will touch your heart and hopefully make you want to start studying your Bible yourself.
Her greatest wish was...to let people know what a wonderful God there is living and who loves us unconditionally and who wish we would be willing to sit at the desk being tought about His love portrayed through His word, the Bible.
There is consequences that God wish we would avoid as He tries to protect us but...He gives us a free will to choose to listen to Him or not.
I dont have time at this moment to go through our beliefs. Only thing Ill say now....read your Bibles and pray for guidance from God when you open the book. The Bible should always be read without preconceived ideas/thoughts.
Most importantly it should be read with realization that its Gods word we are talking about (and not something you and I can add or subtract things from without a consequence).
God 'spoke' to the men of Bible and they used human words in order to describe what they were shown or what they experienced in their lifes when following God.
This means you and I cannot take things out of context. You have to let the Bible interpret itself.
Hey guys remember what Christ called many of the priests and theologians of those days? (Matt 23,27) Are they all better today you think? Im afraid not...you need to find out for yourself what is right and wrong...dont base your faith on what others believe but check it out yourself is my advice.
Its better you ask me questions about my beliefs being an Adventist which of many of them actually are the same as most other Bible believing Christians.
Remember keep an open mind...sorry guys this ended up being way too long
Ill be back in town
May you all have a wonderful day...
Your Christian brother,
"Men build too many walls and not enough bridges"
"whenever you teach, teach your hearers to doubt whatever you teach"
"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."