Jesus gives the kingdom back to his God

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Post by 1stjohn0666 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:11 pm

Jesus in 1 Cor 15:24-28 gives the kingdom and everything that was given to him back to his Father and God, "so that God can be all in all"
How do you see these texts?

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Post by B. W. » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:17 am

1stjohn0666 wrote:Jesus in 1 Cor 15:24-28 gives the kingdom and everything that was given to him back to his Father and God, "so that God can be all in all"
How do you see these texts?
Too bad you don't know what a spirit is...
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Post by 1stjohn0666 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:52 am

you seem to want to fight, why not answer my question? Spirit is Pneuma "breath or wind" that is one of many. Jesus is not God with this text, he is subordinate to his Father and his God.

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Post by B. W. » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:33 am

1stjohn0666 wrote:you seem to want to fight, why not answer my question? Spirit is Pneuma "breath or wind" that is one of many. Jesus is not God with this text, he is subordinate to his Father and his God.
I take it you are a Christadelphian. That is someone who teaches a different kind of Jesus than what the bible teaches a false gospel. The bible tells us to beware of false brethren as you do not believe in the biblical Jesus.

You need to be honest with the people here of this forum and correctly identify yourself.

That way people can actually have an honest dialogue with you instead pf playing a guessing game.

CARM has much to say on Christadelphianism:

http://carm.org/christadelphianism
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Post by 1stjohn0666 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:42 pm

I do not belong to any religious institution, I am simply monotheist.

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Post by B. W. » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:01 pm

1stjohn0666 wrote:I do not belong to any religious institution, I am simply monotheist.
You hold the Christadelphian view on all points they do, therefore, I class you as a Christadelphian with a bent toward 666 anarchy.

So how come you hold to all the tenets of Christadelphianism if you are not?

Bit of honesty would be appropriate from you instead of vagueness. Just stating you are a monotheist is too vague and can mean anything. Please use a bit of honesty here but for now, your avatar name tells us all we need to know...

1stjohn666 means 1st john (means: outhouse) and 666 is the Mark of the Beast, the Antichrist number, therefore, please do not list yourself as a Christian on your profile. As for honesty, the 666 gives you away.

A true monotheist would not be a brick wall when talking to them. True monotheist stands up for their religious affiliations. They do not deny them. Agnostics and atheist don’t cower either, they at least are honest where they stand and identify themselves as agnostics or atheist. People can respect that. But to place on your profile, you are a Christian and then deny who Jesus Christ is, well, very revealing.

For now, you have aligned yourself completely to Christadelphian doctrine as documented in the majority of your post. So if people would like to respond to you, they need to read up on the cult of Christadelphianism to understand where you are coming from.
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Post by 1stjohn0666 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:03 pm

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Post by B. W. » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:35 pm

1stjohn0666 wrote:...Spirit is Pneuma "breath or wind" that is one of many. Jesus is not God with this text, he is subordinate to his Father and his God.
1stjohn0666 wrote:Answers for B.W.
AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE I AM NOT "ONE OF THOSE" :lol:
Let's see what you agree with so far in from you prior postings...it is evident that you believe and agree with the following numbers...from the article...

What do the Christadelphians Teach?
Quote From: http://carm.org/christadelphianism

by Matt Slick
Though they acknowledge many truths found in the Bible, they deny many others.

2. They teach there is only one God. (Isaiah 43-45)

6. They believe that there has been an apostasy and that Christianity is a false religious system. (A tract titled “Christendom Astray Since the Apostolic Age, Detroit Christadelphian Book Supply)

7. They believe annihilation of the wicked. (What They Believe, p. 187).

10. They deny the doctrine of the Trinity. (What They Believe, p. 84-87)

11. They deny that Jesus is God in flesh. (Answers, p. 22)

12. They deny that Jesus existed prior to his incarnation. (What They Believe , p. 85,86)

13. They deny the personhood and deity of the Holy Spirit. (What They Believe , p. 115)

16. They deny immortality of the soul. (What They Believe , p. 17

17. They deny that a person exists after death. (What They Believe, p. 17

18. They deny the existence of hell and eternal punishment. (What They Believe, p. 188-189)

John666 should we add to the list as well - do you hold these views? Do you deny these???

14. They deny the substitutionary atonement of Christ. (Answers, p. 25; What They Believe, p. 71) WHICH VERSION OF substitutionary atonement

15. They deny salvation by grace through faith alone. (What they Believe, p. 204)
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Post by 1stjohn0666 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:15 am

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Post by secretfire6 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:54 pm

1stjohn0666 wrote:Jesus in 1 Cor 15:24-28 gives the kingdom and everything that was given to him back to his Father and God, "so that God can be all in all"
How do you see these texts?
ok I've read this posting a few times (I've been away from the site for a while, which is why I'm so late) What I get from those verses is that since the messiah's sacrificial act and blood ransom on our behalf, he has been granted dominion over the kingdom, named lord of lords and king of kings and has been spiritually calling and guiding us towards his path. His main enemy is of course sin and the deceptive whisperings of the devil. Once the number of those who will be saved is complete, this age will end, the wicked are seperated from the righteous and Jesus turns the kingdom over to the Father. The heavenly realm and the earthly realm are recombined and God will dwell among us on the new earth. Then "God can be all in all "

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