Good argument against Deism?

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Re: Good argument against Deism?


Post by CallMeDave » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:25 am

spartanII wrote:Why would an all knowing God create a universe that He didn't care for at all? I'm sure to Him, making a universe is like making a cup of tea to us... but our universe is designed with intelligence that we are barely beginning to understand, yet, this "god" of some sorts did it for no good reason?

Your first point above is a non sequitur/misconception . A Universe made to come into being from nothing when it didnt have to and so we could have a place to enjoy our life in , displaces the notion of an 'uncaring' Creator. When One considers over 150 Life Enabling Constants to our Cosmos , all working flawlessly and in unison with one another for our existence and requires a very dedicated caring awesome personal Creator who thinks quite lovingly toward us. Would there be some reason why you would not find this personally appealing ? What would be a reasonable response to a Creator who has demonstrated his care toward us ?

Secondly, for a finite event (creation of the Cosmos) that comes into being from nothing with many awesome scientifically-confirmed displays of intelligence within it when these displays didnt have to exist , rules out there was 'no good reason' for it . Whereever you find intelligence , it is exists to partially or fully complete a process or entity ; thus that gives the process/entity a reasonable purpose . In fact, it is the atheistic worldview which must borrow from the theistic worldview in order to help justify it because things like reason, logic, intellect, etc... cant exist in a material only Universe , yet these are all things Atheists use to champion their worldview .
"I never asserted such an absurd proposition, that something could arise without a Cause" -- staunch atheist Philosopher David Hume.

"What this world now needs is Christian love or compassion" -- staunch atheist Bertrand Russell.

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