jlay wrote:Certainly not. Because there is no such thing, nor can there be.But we were founded a nation and there is no half way about it.
I am a Christian. I will certainly agree that the USA was founded by men who were not only Christian, but would be considered Christian scholars by the standards of today. And, yes, I believe the USA is best suited for Christian people. But the USA is not a Christian nation. And I do not think people who make this claim have any idea what they are actually claiming when they say so.
These were Christian men in some respect. But they were also rebels who violated the very teachings of scripture. 1 Peter 2:13, Romans 13:1-2
How can one read those verses and even attempt to say that the US is a Christian nation, or founded as a Christian nation? What Christ founded was in his blood, and not in the blood of human warfare. And it has nothing to do with temporary governments of men. I have no doubt that the FFs were heavily influenced by their knowledge of the Bible. But they certainly ignored it and violated when they took up arms. What a noble cause. Taxation without representation. Now, there is a cross to die upon. Jesus said, rend to Caesar what is Caesers.
The USA is not a theocracy, and I am thankful that these rebels were wise in that they did not use any founding document to impose a Christian theocracy, because they knew it would have been corrupt. Our battle is not flesh and blood. Nor is it in constitutions and declarations. You will get no argument that Christian ethics influenced the West and the USA. But when someone says the USA was founded a Christian nation, they have stepped over a line and have confused the American dream for Christ crucified. The USA will fail. It will turn to dust. Christ will never.
There is NOTHING in the Constitution or DOI that says anything about a Christian nation, or a nation for Christians. NOTHING. Influence is just that, influence. No doubt our FFs were also influenced by the Thomas Paine, who was anit-religious, and many other political factors of the time, which had nothing to do with Christianity.
I agree with you.