...In my previous posts I referenced verses that seem to be saying ALL will eventually be reconciled ie they will no longer be sinners. But I think I'll leave it here because we are going round and round and each has his own understanding. I've written down the main things I'm not too sure about and popped them in my Bible and each day I'm going to ask God to help me understand His truth. God Bless
I suggest you read the book, Hell Underfire, Morgan-Peterson, by Zondervan
for more info regarding the verses you cited earlier.
To make it short as possible, regarding the scriptures such as:
1 Ti 2:4, “…who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” ESV
The Greek words translated 'who desires all
' is used much the same way we use these words. KJV uses the word 'will' and not 'desire' but it means desires nevertheless. The word 'all
' is qualified by 'desires
In other words, as EZ 18:23-32 and EZ 33:11
, The Lord wants people to turn away from sins and live, yet, if they do not, they will die. That expresses God's desire to save yet he knows not all will be saved. He sent Christ to be a propitiation for our sins and the whole worlds but if one does not believe this and coming to Christ to be saved, they remain unsaved. Faith accounts for righteousness. If people would but read the bible a bit more, then they would not take scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:4 out of context. Look at:
2 Th 2:10, “and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved." ESV
Another verse declares there are people who refuse the love of the truth so to be saved; therefore, not everyone will be saved. Balance this with 1 Timothy 2:4 and EZ 18, 33
and you'll see the truth of what is being said: God desires all to be saved but not all will.
2 Pe 3:9, “The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” ESV
Again the Lord does not want any to perish but that all should reach repentance. However, not all will. The word of God tells us in:
Rom 10:9-13, “…because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." ESV
That only those that believe in the Lord's work on the cross and resurrection will be saved. There is no carta-blanc salvation but only for those that believe and confess. Jesus says the same thing in:
John 3:15-31, “…that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
“19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God." ESV
Jesus states that those that believe in him will be saved and those that do not remain as they are, condemned because their works were evil (twisted, diseased, blind, bad…always twisting towards unethical-ness).
John 5:24, “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” ESV
There is a passing from death to life and that comes through believing in Christ and what happened on the cross. Two sets of people mentioned — saved and unsaved. The cross confronts us with what we love more — darkness or light and thus forcing us to choose. As it is written:
Psalm 98:9, "... or he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world with righteousness, and the peoples with equity." ESV
The Lord judges the world by sending his righteousness (Jesus Christ) so that he judges with equity all people. Those that believe will be saved and those rejecting will be rejected. Though God desires all to be saved and provided the means (the cross) so that all can be saved, he knows not all will be saved as they love darkness more than light.
John 3:36 brings out as well: “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
Therefore the "all
" saved scriptures are explained and qualified as 'all who believe'
The Lord wants none to perish so His equity provides us all with a choice in this matter. Even though God already knows our response to this call, He calls to all anyways, which proves His equity true. There will be those that love darkness more than light remaining unsaved and those that will come to His light thus becoming saved.
How can equity be true equity if it denies the creature the liberty to freely choose? How can that prove justice true to the creature as well as to the Creator if true equity is denied?
Universalism denies God's true equity and seeks to manipulate the name (character) of the Lord (his love, mercy, etc) to deny who He is so humanity is of the hook by dictating to God how He should be and demands the Lord to prove it so on their terms. Who is really sovereign providing true equity here? This is why Universalism is a dangerous doctrine as it violates what Deu 5:11