the passages about 'The Apocalypse' and 'the Coming of the Son of Man', in which Jesus says to not believe those who say, the Son is here of there, and that The Son of Man will come like a flash of lightning -that The Kingdom of Heaven is not something you can see, because it exists WITHIN YOU.
Elisa, with all due respect, you have a very disturbing pattern of paraphrasing verses, which you don't even provide the reference for, and then launching off them to say what you want to say regardless of what the verses say.
This board is for sincere seekers and questioners. I do not know your heart, but your answers and discourses are leading me to believe that you are here simply to bring forth your pantheistic and universalistic philosophy rather than interact and listen to what the Bible has to say.
In the "verse" above you completely ignore the fact that these confused conglomeration of verses that you cobble together that sound like some things the Bible says, are being twisted to say things that are completely unbiblical.
Jesus warns of false prophets and phonies who will come in the last days promoting a Gospel OTHER than that which he preached as the true and only Son of God.
If you wish to really discuss this matter and not this confusing mess of concepts that have no real resemblence to the Bible, why don't you quote them and reference them from the Bible and see what they really say?
'What you permit in heaven will be permitted on earth. And what you prohibit in heaven will be prohibited on earth'
...the last is particularly useful. to me it states that: you have every right to choose whatever values you like. So, if the values that you choose, and even if they are similar to those of others, serve you, than that is all that is necessary. It is if you recognise that your values do not serve you, that by changing them you can change your situation.
Nothing could be further from the message of the Bible.
The context of this passage is Jesus speaking to His disciples who are about to go out to begin spreading the message and teachings of Jesus Christ. What he tells them is they have authority on the basis of their relationship with Him and can use that authority in the context of opposition they meet. By your teaching there is no opposition or everything is to be embraced, so there would be no point in Christ doing this if He was teaching a message like yours.
Here's a passage that talks about what you are doing that you may find offensive, but which you need to listen to very carefully Elisa.
[Bible] 2 Peter 3:15-17
15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
'heaven and earth' -is like saying everything is relative. So, if what you allow others to be is opposite to what you are, then your values are perfect. But if you find that sufferring for you or others is caused and that you therefore struggle to tolerate others values and ways, then who you are as a result has already altered and new definitions for relative opposites can be created. This is conceptual. Through doing this, a person can learn how to be the mediator in their own disputes, or otherwise simply redefine themselves in a situation that has changed in which greater diversity between people has arisen.
Heaven and earth means absolutely nothing like saying everything is relative. How anyone could read this from the Scriptures and draw that out is beyond me. Elisa, you approach the Scriptures and use them as a tool to try and make them say what you've already decided you want to believe. Heaven and earth speak of the Physical realm and the Spiritual realm.
I suspect it may not matter to you what any message in Scripture says in context. You will seek to grasp a small element and then add an "interpretation" of your own and then you will be off to the races.
As to people finding all truth within, here's what the Bible has to say about the heart of man.
As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
"Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
"Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
"Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know."
"There is no fear of God before their eyes."
So if your values suit who you are and you find that sufferring is not really an issue -then your values are just as likely to be as perfect as everybody elses. It is only if there is felt to be a conflict of interest that causes sufferring that a person considers changing their outlook.
No Elisa. Here's what God has to say about Man's heart apart from Him.
9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?
10 "I the LORD search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward a man according to his conduct,
according to what his deeds deserve."
The individual will discover this on their own. Jesus encourages their change in perception and the newly emerged concept of who they are regarding the new environment/situation. -That is why the Son of Man 'comes like a flash of lightning' and cannot be seen; just as the Kingdom of Heaven is only ever found within the individual.
I suggest you read Matt 13 to see what the Bible truly say about the Kingdom of God. It is not found within, until the God of Heaven is placed within by the work of the Holy Spirit. There is only one way provided to that condition, and it is not within us. It is through Jesus Christ and Him alone. John 14:6 We cannot find this on our own. God sent Christ to teach us and show us the way. If we could do it on our own there would have been no need.
The rest of what you have to say is more of the same.
I appeal to you Elisa to take a look at what you are doing.
Abstract thought and concepts are wonderful things and there is comfort and excitement in weaving words and thoughts together. The problem is, if you seek to live within those words and concepts and interpret all of reality through them and them alone, then you are caught captive to imaginations and concepts that may not pass the test of reality.
That is why more than just telling us things through the Bible, God sent Jesus Christ in the flesh to not only tell us the truth but to embody it and demonstrate the love God has for us and the path to Him through the sacrificial death He died and then His resurrection through which we all, who choose to accept that gift, have eternal life.
Consider Elisa, if this does not offer peace and certainty beyond that offered in the all-encompassing relativism you are seeking to promote.
I encourage you to read the Discussion Guidelines above for this board and what they say in terms of those seeking verses those simply here to argue of promote their own viewpoint.
Dogmatism is the comfortable intellectual framework of self-righteousness. Self-righteousness is more decadent than the worst sexual sin. ~ Dan Allender