Good point, I forgot.DBowling wrote:How about Cain building a city?thatkidakayoungguy wrote:No, not yet. But enough of it is there to support the premise. The main thing that throws it off is that Tubal Cain is the first to work with Bronze and Iron, though I figured he was just some dude way ahead of his time.DBowling wrote:Even if that is the case, how is that relevant to the timing of Noah's Flood?thatkidakayoungguy wrote:There's evidence people farmed much before then...https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 144709.htmDBowling wrote:Since Noah's Flood (as described in Scripture) occurs at the same time and location as the Sumerian deluge described in Mesopotamian literature, I am convinced that the Scriptural account of Noah's Flood and the Sumerian deluge legend are basically referring to the same historical event. (even if the descriptions are not identical).
ExtraScriptural Sumerian literature confirms the Scriptural time and location for Noah's Flood, as occurring in Mesopotamia around 3000 BC.
Genesis 4 (which occurs BEFORE Noah's Flood) describes behavior that took place during the Neolithic Revolution in Mesopotamia, so I don't think a pre Neolithic Revolution date for the Flood is even viable from a Scriptural perspective.
So since internal Scriptural evidence and external extraScriptural evidence from Sumerian history both point to around 3000 BC...
Then I go with sometime around 3000 BC.
there's a book out somewhere that speculates if farming had been done 40,000 years ago, with apparently evidence to support it.
Take a quick read through Genesis 4 again.
Do you believe that there is evidence to support the premise that ALL the behavior described in Genesis 4 took place before Mesopotamian Neolithic Revolution?
Is there any evidence of any cities in Mesopotamia prior to 5000 BC?
A study of Genesis 4 and human cultural development in the Levant convinced me that it is Scripturally impossible for Noah to predate the Neolithic Revolution...
... and extremely unlikely that Adam and Eve predated the Neolithic Revolution as well, since Cain built a city in Mesopotamia and the first Mesopotamian cities were built in the 4000 BC to 5000 BC time frame.
But I do remember a city that existed in or near the Mississippi River Valley 4000 years ago, and it consisted of a bunch of buildings and was a hunter gatherer. It had huts for buildings, surprisingly.
While that isn't entirely relevant, I'm saying it's possible there were cities beforehand.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion.