abelcainsbrother wrote:The Gap Theory is hard to fully understand and this is why people overlook the truthfulness of it.In the context of recreation that does'nt seem to make sense to you.How about God baptising the earth in water to purge it from sin?It makes perfect sense to me.The earth is flooded in Genesis 1:2 and so everything after that had to be recreation.
The idea of the re-creation isn’t an issue, it’s the claim there’s a second creation within the book of Genesis. This doesn’t make sense when compared to the book of Revelation. Look at Genesis and the book of Revelation as mirrored bookends. They both reflect each other in sharing the same insights into God’s Word. It’s one book, one author, one beginning, one ending.
In Genesis you have the seven days of creation - Revelation you have the seven church ages | Genesis you have the blood that calls out from the ground - Revelation you have the blood that calls out from the altar | Genesis we lose access to the tree of life - Revelation we gain access to the tree of life | Genesis we have the beginning - Revelation we have the new beginning | Genesis we have the creation | Revelation we have the re-creation. This list goes on and on...
Claiming a second creation event within the book of Genesis doesn’t fit the context or pattern of scripture. There’s only one creation event in Genesis and there’s only one creation event in Revelation.
Plus,God is eternal and so recreation is not out of the question like you imply.I realize at first it does'nt sound right but all you have to do is read Genesis 1:2 and its description tells you the earth is in water.
Huh? When did I imply the re-creation was out of the question. Well it’s out of the question if you're inferring it took place in the book of Genesis. I think you're reading something into the text that’s not there.
Other creationists have been dishonest about the Gap Theory and why they reject it.No I'm not upset over creationism differences what gets me riled up is a false gospel.Creation is not a salvation issue,it is a truth issue though and we all cannot be right although in come cases we can have some of the truth but could be overlooking certian things.Progessive creationism is interesting to me but there are certian things that bother me about it.If I did'nt believe the Gap Theory is true I'd probably choose progressive creationism,but the Gap Theory is just more truthful to me.
I only find some Young Earth Creationist to really be dishonest. Other than that I feel most Creation perspective are based on presuppositions or mislead Creationist teachings.
Agreed teaching a false gospel is crossing the line. The only true Christian dogma is Christ crucified.
One Way - One Truth - One God
I don't really need science to validate the Gap Theory either but it is nice when it does.I don't believe our faith is blind and I believe that when we have the correct biblical interpretation nature God created will line up with it and confirm it and it just enhances out understanding and faith in God's word being true.
Both Young earth creationism and the theory of evolution have led people astray because sadly the theory of evolution is more believable than young earth creationism,but not the Gap Theory once the evidence is gone over and laid out for all to see.Gap Creationism becomes more believable based on the evidence and there would be less of an influence of evolution for us to deal with.
I think evolution gives people an excuse to ignore the God of the bible. But I never really saw it as leading them astray. If I weren’t a Progressive Creationist, I’d most likely lean towards a Theistic Evolution perspective. For evolution to be true would require a programmer. No monkeys allowed!
Young Earth Creationism on the other hand… Sorry it just comes out ignorant, more like a fairy tale that’s not very believable.
If the ice age happened about 12,000 years ago and it was a full extinction how can you claim science does'nt validate the Gap or that God could'nt have made this world about 6-10,000 years ago? Human history goes back this far,before this we are dealing with hominids and neanderthals that lived in the former world.The Gap Theory begins in Genesis 1:2 before God speaks and starts restoring the earth and heavens so that he can create the life we have in this world and man.
Your comments here are why the Gap Theory gives me pause. First because I don’t see it in scripture, and secondly I don’t see it in the historical record. This seem to be in parallel with the YEC position.
As far as the rapture you did not address how the words "caught up" and the word "rapture" mean the same thing and instead focused on the word "wrath" and "tribulation" when wrath is referring to the tribulation.Based on this the rapture cannot be at the end of the tribulation as you suggest bringing up the 6th and 7th seals.
I’m not sure what I failed to have addressed. Both these terms are used by pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath… There’s no great mystery behind the words “rapture” and “caught up”. You missed one in “our being gathered together”. There’s no contradiction in using these terms to describe a singular event, the Rapture. None whatsoever…
I focused on the words “wrath” and “tribulation” because you used them out of context. Did you endeavor to reference them in a Strong's Concordance? I’ll break it down, Thilipsis is the greek word translated “tribulations”. This word always means the Persecution of believers by non-believers. As believers will never escape persecution. Orgay is the greek word translated “wrath”, which is the judgment of God on non-believers. As believers will never experience the wrath of God.
“Then they will deliver you to tribulation
, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name”
I have done teachings on the Gap Theory I have some threads on here about it.I started a comprehensive teaching on it but I have'nt worked on it for awhile,I need to finish it sometime.I think it is good so far though.
Cool. I’ll look forward to reading it someday.