I sill don't see it, but will also listen to your Watson.DBowling wrote:Simple sequence of events...Kurieuo wrote:You'll have to explain, as I don't see it.DBowling wrote:Example 1:
The chronological relationship of the creation of humanity in Genesis 1:26-27 to the story of Adam and Eve in Genesis 2-3 is the first Scriptural indicator. Read chronologically, humanity is created in Genesis 1:26-27 some time before the story of Adam and Eve takes place in Genesis 2-3. The narrative context of the creation of humanity in Genesis 1:26-27 is very different from the narrative context of Genesis 2-3, so there is no reason based on the text itself to presume that Genesis 2-3 is a recapitulation of the story of Genesis 1:26-27. However, the presumption that Adam and Eve are the genetic progenitors of all humans leads to the traditional premise that Genesis 2-3 is a recapitulation of Genesis 1:26-27.
The chronological narrative of Genesis 1-3 without this presumption clearly states that humanity was created before the events of Genesis 2-3 take place and therefore Adam and Eve cannot be the genetic progenitors of all humanity.
Based on the sequence of events described in Genesis 1-3
- Mankind is created by God in Genesis 1:26-27
- The story of Adam and Eve takes place in Genesis 2-3
Therefore if mankind is created sequentially before Adam and Eve then by definition Adam and Eve cannot be the genetic progenitors of all mankind.
The traditional rebuttal to this argument is that Genesis 2-3 is a recapitulation of Genesis 1:26-27. However that rebuttal is a presumption that is placed upon the text based on the assumption that Adam and Eve were the first humans and is not found within the text itself.
Just wanted to note, I did revise my post to smooth out some words. Also, in relation to the above, I extended my words: "You'll have to explain, as I don't see it. with the following:
Kurieuo wrote:You'll have to further explain, as I'm unclear on your points being made. That is, how such (Genesis 1:26-27 related to Genesis 2-3, different narrative [though I'd say same narrative, different focus]) indicates a lineage outside of Adam and Eve. Furthermore, other interpretations, for example RTB's popular Day-Age interpretation (which I thought you once were, unless I'm confusing you with others), do not say Genesis 2 is a recapitulation of Genesis 1. To also make an observation of my own, I see no real "human narrative" in Genesis 1, rather the creation of humans are an end part to a fuller creation narrative identifying Israel's God as the Lord and creator of everything. Genesis 2, at about Gen 2:5, then begins to set the scene as the focus "zooms in" on God's relationship with the man and women.