Evolution 2.0 breaking the deadlock between Darwin and ID

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Evolution 2.0 breaking the deadlock between Darwin and ID

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Post by bippy123 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:48 pm

I had studied perry marshals theories a while back and fir some reason I forgot about him.
He has come out with a new book called evolution 2.0

Here is his debate against perry Marshall .
Very interesting way of looking at evolution . What do you guys think ?

https://youtu.be/eC6KzhvR-bo

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Post by PaulSacramento » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:23 am

That is a long video dude and I can't stand Meyers, the man is an idiot.

Can you give me the gist of the argument?

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Post by bippy123 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:03 pm

Paul it was basically perry Marshall saying that evolution isn't random .it seems that perry refuses to brush up on his knowledge of evolution and until he does this theory won't help . They look good on paper in a vacuum but not against an evolutionary biologist . On Meyers would get demolished by Michael Behe who happens to believe in both evolution and intelligent design .

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Post by Jac3510 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:29 pm

Didn't understand all of it, but seems like Marshall was thoroughly debunked. :-/
Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.

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Post by bippy123 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:00 am

Yea jac and it's sad to see because he simply refuses to prepare himself by researching the other side . It's as if he believes that his ideas exist in a vacuum untouched .

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Post by PaulSacramento » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:59 am

One should not have any real issues with randomness.
That the environment can affect us in what WE perceive is a random ( unplanned and unpredictable) way should not be a big deal or surprise to anyone.
The way I see it, it is just one more bit of evidence that actually does show some "design" in life.
That life CAN adapt, CAN evolve is, simply miraculous.
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Post by Jac3510 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:00 pm

I don't see why there'd be an problems with "randomness" either. It's in every aspect of life, so why not biology, too? What's he working from, a Newtonian/Mechanistic (which is to say, deterministic) universe? Please. That's the real idea that undercuts theism.
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Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.

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Post by bippy123 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:17 pm

Hey Jac , I guess I never bothered to look at it this way but it does make perfect sense .
I so do love my exotic Carboniferous period animals :)

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