First off, Audie, please do not connect me to ACB's water/ice issues. I do believe the flood occurred - whether global or regional
I did not. You are confused. I said something to Theo, for which you ahae been trying to pound me with irrelevancies
, I do not know. But you are discounting something that you don't even know WHERE it occurred, nor what the scale of it was.
Exactly what you did, with your OP. The I'd add that you nor anyone knows if there was any actual flood of any sort that formed the basis for the Noah's ark story.
My purpose is not to argue flood dynamics, but that you clearly appear to dismiss everything Biblical based upon variables that cannot be proven - because you don't know where, when, or the scope of
Then why did you argue flood dynamics in your op? I don not "dismiss everything biblical", a completely absurd notion. Like I must dismiss Egypt, too. Honestly, put some thought into what you write.
Clearly schmaderely, you are imagining things, not seeing me at all.
Sine you brought in "proven" tho, many floods in various places and times can be proven to have happened. World wide flood is proven not to have happened. You surely have to agree to that, unless, you know, you are irrational.
You have not identified a single thing I said in my response to theo that you dont agree with.
It's your constant ridiculing of ALL based only upon your imperfect knowledge of some ancient flood.
Must I constantly defend myself against your silly falsehoods, or could you apply a bit of self discipline?
And so I am pointing out how ridiculous THAT is, when you have a FAR bigger problem of explaining what can only be a metaphysical belief and is in NO way a scientifically substantiable one. That is why I asked you key questions about what it appears you believe. I hope you will answer them
Yes, what falsely claim about me is what is ridiculous; set it up, knock it down.
But lets look at t his "far bigger problem":
So, like, a school teacher cannot correct Johnnies arithmetic coz she cant do integral calculus? You are making no sense.
. Because the flood issue has key unknowable things - meaning, you can't disprove it because of currently incomplete knowledge and data.
"Knowledge and data" will never be complete, so I guess we can know nothing? You are not putting much thought into this.
AND btw, the WWF is so easy to disprove, so obvious, that it is kind of shocking to see how many Americans are still in the 17 or 16th century.
Some have suggested that the flooding of the Black Sea might be the origin.
Whatever the origin, the way that it is told cannot possibly be accurate.
Which, speaking of bigger problems.. where does that leave a infallible book?
Audie, yours is not what you DON'T know that is the real problem, it's what you apparently believe that is - because of you apparently believe that the origins of all things were not from an intelligent/purposeful designing source - call that Source what you will.
Your problem is two fold. One that you decide what is apparent as you peer through an attitude filter (and get it wrong every time).
Do you think you know for a fact that there had to be your IPDS" (intelligent purposeful desingning source) You been statin' it as a fact; crazy not to believe it, and all.
"Infallible knowledge". Thin ice there!
At the very LEAST, that Source HAD to be: Eternal, supremely intelligent (beyond our imaginations), extraordinary powerful, and astonishingly purposeful. It is absolutely irrational to think otherwise,
At what age did you attain the power of infallible knowledge?
The best of modern science does not come to such conclusions as that the universe has a beginning or an end. But you do know? You have to know that much at least for you to know there must be a ESEIPAP.
Astonishment should be addressed to those who somehow think that the ancient greeks nailed the ultimate mysteries of the universe. You know,
the four elements, the forces of gravity and levity...
Philosophers used to think they had the market cornered on knowledge and wisdom Was it Wittgenstein who said philosophy has left to it only arguments over what words mean?
because you see that nowhere demonstrated by science or anything else UNCAUSED or not derivative. That's but an irrational
I am confident that same argument was used to say why disease, lightning, earthquakes and so forth were proof of god. I mean, science could so totally not explain them.
metaphysical belief and speculation. And one you shouldn't even reference science in such a belief - because it is based upon things BEYOND and BEFORE ALL known science and human knowledge
See 16th century for references to how this all works.
You seem disinclined, btw, to address my question about what time is.
If a person does not understand time its pretty tough to say about beginnings, ends, infinity etc. Then there is imaginary time; maybe "regular" time and imaginary time cancel eachother? What about relativity? Time speeding up, slowing down, or stopping or being nothing but an illusion?
You also seem disinclined to Identify anything incorrect in my response to Theo. Which, btw, was only about the childish superstition about a WWF, not anything about the merits of the bible as a whole.
If I got it wrong in something I said to theo, by all means identify it.