Thanks for the welcome Philip, definitely going to have a gander around.Philip wrote:And THAT, Richard, is the 21-gun salute from the forum's usual wise guy welcoming committee. We're not usually THAT cynical (well, okay, we ARE ). HOWEVER, you are talking about alien explanations for Bible passages... But don't mistake our initial response, as you are most welcome here. Gotta admit, though, that was one heck of an introductory post.
So, in other words, if you change EVERYTHING to means something else, to the point that if fits someone else's wild narrative - well, you do see the problem? I'm sure we could weave in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to better understand the text, and you could do this with many other mythical stories/characters. But that's a terrible way to discern the truth of the matter.Richard wrote: Enoch explains it well which might explain why it was left out of the bible. Just have to replace star with space craft, angel with alien, abyss with quarantine, white men with Paleaidians, the animals refer to human races i.e black, white and red Indians.
Again, as my link to Dr. Heiser's video, these alien scenarios given such wide popularity in books, TV, etc., have been enough for a scholar of Heiser's credentials to address it seriously. I strongly suggest you watch the linked video, visit the website.
And, Richard, I leave you with one curious question: IF our existence and history is due to alien origins - well, WHERE did the ALIENS come from???!!!
Let me put it this way, I find aliens more feasible than angels. Add to that that the Illuminati are very into fantasy and symbolism plus the original aliens likely could live many hundreds of years so they had a completely different attitude towards time, putting together a 5000 year plan is no problem if you're used to living 500+ years, that's only 10 generations, for us it would be 100 living to 50. Also the original aliens were highly intelligent, they were fourth dimensional beings, could travel faster than the speed of light to other star systems, also genetic engineers which is why they use the serpent for symbolism as it reflects the spiral pattern of DNA. However, they were warring, blew our 5th planet up and messed around with our genetics; not exactly what I would call enlightened or wise beings which I suspect relates to their soul matrix being damaged, maybe even destroyed, in theory it may be possible to destroy a soul matrix and yet still have generations that live for 500+ years, so such a scenario could continue for many thousands of years but perhaps over time the genetic engineering stops working so well. Maybe that's why they are here, to find out how to rebuild their soul matrix not that I've any idea if such a thing is possible or if such a thing exists, I've more sort of reverse engineered it as a theory and since doing that something changed in me. As you may know, the Illuminati control mass media, make a lot of movies and series. Battlestar Galactica is the best representation of how things are imo, the ending is happy which shows to me that they do at least have hope and want things to work out positively.
The bible talks of there being nothing worse than death of the soul, also the Illuminati are quite obsessed with the human soul, their pain and anguish is quite apparent in modern movies and especially music videos. They were the ancient Egyptians too and the Nazis, and now they run the UN. They pretty much wrote our entire history from 3000 BC to now. All the ancient scripts before the bible tell a similar story to the bible, they use the same core formula, order from chaos (written on the dollar bill), chaos involves a hero figure and a perpetrator, Jesus vs Rome, Axis vs Allies, UN vs ? The basic concept is to occupy and divide the population by getting them to fight in order to avoid them revealing your secret and realising the majority population should be dealing with them instead. It's very clever, take 2 populations, 1 population is 1/3 of the total, the remaining 2/3 population are only aware of 1 population, so they have a 1/2 mindset in conflicts, this is why the Illuminati want to keep their identity a secret.
I don't want to offend anyone, these are highly controversial topics but you have to understand that the Illuminati are masters of deception and masters of the psyche, and since they've been here for so long, it's not possible to accept anything at face value. From a spiritual perspective, if there is meaning to things, this may be something we have invited upon ourselves because I believe that the universe has a way through consciousness, of bringing about certain events. If there is meaning and reason for us, then there is also meaning and reason for the aliens so we should not be too quick to anger. I feel mother Earth has had enough though, she wants what's rightly hers and to lick her wounds.
Imagine if the Paleaidians hadn't intervened, whoever they are, they are the real heros as the other group of aliens would likely have destroyed Earth. So many coincidences and so much luck, I can't believe things aren't being guided by unknown forces.
Hi Furstentum, you bring up an interesting point. Of course Earth can accept races from other planets, but if they come barging in and force higher dimensional beings to lock her in chains for thousands of years, she's not going to be happy about it. As long as a being asks for acceptance and has a good heart, she will be more than welcoming.