For everyone who thinks I'm being contradictory and/or self-defeating, let me tell you: I am aware of that! But, guess what?, everything we say ends up being contradictory! Language is a lame, limited tool and I don't know anyone who doesn't contradict himself/herself if he/she keeps talking. I usually say: "The only way to never contradict yourself is to live youur whole life your mouth shut".
I know I'm self-defeating. I can't help it. But I believe that's our condition as humans.
But if all of our brains are faulty, how would we know if the article is wrong?
I know! Now, pick that sentence and replace "the article" with "the Bible". See what happens. After all, the Bible was written by men, not God himself...
Thing is though, there`s an if in there. If
our brains are faulty. What if they`re not?
True, the Bible was written by men but it was inspired by God. What if it`s all true? What then? I do get where you`re coming from but it takes as much faith to believe that the Bible isn`t true or God doesn`t exist as it does to believe that it is true and He does exist. I suppose it comes down to experience and belief. I know that if I put my hand on something hot, it will hurt. I also know, that for me personally, God exists. I found God before I found the Bible, I have looked and looked for proof that God doesn`t exist, that this is all just wishful thinking but I haven`t found anything yet. Sure, I want
to believe in God so perhaps I am biased but even so, the odds of all of this being some cosmic accident are just too huge for me. Was it Holmes that said once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth?
But if our brains are faulty enough that we can't know whats right, then how does the author even know what he is saying is right?
We can not! That's one of the points of the article! But even so, let's see...how do we "know" (please notice the inverted commas) X thing is right? With faith! Now we get to your area: the faith that you claim to be so important. Blind faith, to be precise. My faith on the article is blind...just like everyone else's faith! Why? Because we may think we have "evidence" for our faith, but in the end we may have zero evidence because our brain tricks us! That guy thinks God is likely because of the Earth's design? Who told him the details of that design? How does he know that person isn't lying? He doesn't, he just has faith that what that person said is true! That guy who thinks evolution is likely because of this study (http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/05/ ... dentified/
)? Who told him the study is real? How does he know that person isn't lying? He doesn't, he just has faith that what that person said is true!
Not sure I agree it`s blind faith. Sure, I agree our brain may be tricking us to a certain extent but you can take that argument anywhere. Maybe we don`t really exist at all? My faith comes from reading, questioning, and talking and praying to God. I suppose you could argue that it`s still just faith but that`s the point. I place my faith in God because, to me, that seems the most likely scenario.
MBPrata wrote:And considering all of this, I think we, humans, should drop our arrogance and always debating saying "I believe" or "I think" instead of "I know". Yeah, I've grown up to be a person who thinks the most arrogant attitude possible is for one to think he/she knows something rather than to think he/she believes something.
This I relate to! I can only ever tell you what I believe. Apart from the obvious things like fire is hot, that kind of thing. My faith and belief in God is personal to me, your faith and belief in God will be different, who am I to say that I`m right and you`re wrong?
If he was just making a point about all of us being gracious in our discussions, and understanding that we are not always right, then I'd understand him too.
Well, that was one of the ideas I had in mind, yeah...
Maybe if failed on that. But I tried. In general, my point with the article was something like "Stop thinking you know better, you know as much as an atheist. Not more, not less: as much as. Which is...well...nothing! So, please, try to be humble."[/quote]
Just because we may have different ideas doesn`t mean that it can`t be discussed in a friendly, non judgemental way. We are all, in our way, trying to figure out this beautiful mystery called life.