neo-x wrote:I JUST DON'T GET IT.Christianity used to be the kinder religion. It used to offer something special in comparison with everything around it. Nothing was better. But now, with so much at their finger tips, the tolerance movement, knowing there are nice people in this world who don't believe in God. Knowing more about other religions. Christianity needs to start being viewed as compassionate again... And as a I know you are going to say "But we are!" but you guys need to make this more obvious to an Atheist who have already lost their faith... probably in humanity in general.
Why do you expect the christian to be always begging you to understand...why? I mean an atheist is not my problem, what he believes is not my problem either. If someone is interested he should ask, if not, hell no ones is trying to convert you on a gunpoint. I dofeel compassionate for a lot of people but there is a limit to it and that ends when someone does not want to understand and just make fun or mock. And I have atheist friends.
You asked me for help when you came here, tell me what insult did I do to you while helping you, did I mock you or tried to help you? Do you want to go over those emails again. So please, if you feel special warmth for fun making atheists, fine, no one is stopping you, but don't preach that as in all atheists are atheists because Christians went mad. That is just not true or even a proper excuse. I know a person who went through brutal times like your husband, he is a strong christian, because he saw the un-justice of it and realized how much God stood in contrast, so "I had it bad" is not a justifiable excuse to shut your eyes. I know people who have experience otherwise. And while what happened to your husband was horrifyingly wrong. I still do not find that a wise choice, an obvious one, but not a wise one. but this happen with people who have traumatic experiences, and he has my sympathies.
to your post in an another thread, "I do know good atheists, I have atheist relatives as well"
I guess... I have an unreasonable expectation that for a religion that is supposed to be the answer to everything should... have the answer to everything. And that these answers should makes sense to everyone.
I just... I don't like the way people talk about atheists. I get it... that is is a Christian place- and I really don't like it when a Atheist comes here and gets down on you guys either. It bothers me.
I am trying to understand and I am realizing that I am failing and I may be missing the point.
I just don't get the point of Christianity at all now. I find I am more confused about it then when I got here. So many different sects, so many different beliefs about the same thing... Some people with a heavy hand, some with a soft. At first I had an idea... and now I know I am wrong... but I am even more confused as to what the POINT is.
If it is not to be a better person, accepting Jesus as your lord and savoir, and believing in God- What is it? I know the last two are still true- but the first one is apparently not as I was told by one person that God doesn't count your good deeds. And I am getting the feeling that there are no good deeds? Am I right? Humans can only do evil is what I heard from one guy. I am just CONFUSED. I don't even know what to think anymore about Christians. I was thinking we could all join up, hand in hand, and be peaceful but I am thinking that was a misconception as well.
I have not felt wronged by you at all. Or even the church I went to visit yesterday. It was pretty cool. And they said I can come anytime even though I said I was Buddhist they are perfectly OK with it. Really nice people. I am saying that SOME PEOPLE have bad experiences or they hear it from others. That is the most common reason I have personally found sited. One of my friends says that she just didn't feel it made sense to her, but she still goes to church just hoping that maybe she will have an epiphany.
I am saying too many people equate Atheists with China like Atheists equate all Christians with extremists.
The most offensive thing I found on here so far was "Animals don't have souls". I am really not that upset at anything else. But that little belief kinda... made me on edge. No idea that some of you guys believed that. And I say some because the church I went to says that they do. O.o
I mean, some churches say you can become an Angel and others say you don't and that Angels are totally different beings.
It is supposed to be an eternal religion without change to God's word yet God's word clearly changes with each person who reads it and even just plainly halfway through the story. And even from book to book and translation to translation.
I think I am just surprised is all. I am finding a lot of pleasant conversation here... It really is interesting to hear everyone's viewpoints. Obviously, I am going to disagree with a few because I am not a part of the same religious faith as you guys. I mean, every sect with in Christianity seems to have a different opinion! I only ask questions out of curiosity. But it is not in the Christian faith to question things like that... but it is in mine so I just keep asking questions.
The the best and worst thing about a belief is that... it doesn't change. The coolest thing and least coolest thing about an idea is that it is ever changing.
I wasn't meaning to be offensive... I don't know why you took it that way- or maybe I am taking it that you are offended. If you are not, I apologize.
Why do you think people become Atheist? Please keep this to only U.S. or U.K.