dad wrote: Augustine denied the bible? Or did he merely get some things wrong?
Augustine, and others seemed to have launched the RCC belief that the church/pope were God incarnate. So he would not believe the Bible apart from the strict interpretation of it by the church.Augustine wrote:I would not believe in the Gospels were it not for the authority of the Catholic Church.
It is my opinion that the Word (Jesus) has to be believed no matter what He says no matter where. Not by some church that dictates to me that the "Queen of Heaven" should be worshiped. Doctrines of demons.
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Read Jeremiah 7 It talks all about this queen of the heaven and Gods Judgment of it. Other teachings of the RCC you probably know and I wont get into them here.
I'm not talking about someone that doesn't know the Word. Were talking about people that twist and or disobey the Word.Well, how could we judge that? Or should we even be trying to do so? I also wonder if we really have to believe the whole bible to be saved? I thought all we needed to do was believe in Jesus. Some might do that with only hearing, say 1 verse, like John 3:16. They would still know the truth, because Jesus is the truth.
It is a slippery slope isn't it? The Lord does tell us that He Judges the hearts and minds of men and also tells us that "out of the heart the mouth speaks".
However, for me at least it's black and white, yes or no. You either believe what Christ says or you don't. Yes God you died for me, but no God you didn't create the earth. Yadda yadda.
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump right? What does God say happens when we play around with the doctrine found in Revelations?
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Keep in mind were talking about a church leader here (I almost said 'father' ooppss another RCC fumble).
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Some would do well to believe on Him.Some apparently abide in different ways than others. I guess long as we do the best we can.
Pro 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
Pro 3:4 So shalt thou find favor and good understanding in the sight of God and man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.