Life on Mars
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Life on Mars
The link shows a news reports about NASA finding water on Mars.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs ... id=6215564
Finding life there will certainly not mean anything major really, thinking about it. It is certainly too late for anything advanced to develop anyway and the surface conditions are too hostile for any to survive. I think it points more to how fine tuned conditions need to me for any real life to form.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs ... id=6215564
Finding life there will certainly not mean anything major really, thinking about it. It is certainly too late for anything advanced to develop anyway and the surface conditions are too hostile for any to survive. I think it points more to how fine tuned conditions need to me for any real life to form.
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Evidence of water on Mars was already pretty much established. The rovers discovered rock forms which are highly improbable to have formed without water.Mr. Hyde wrote:I think it would be pretty sweet if they find water on Mars and no life.
What is new about the most recent findings is that the evidence for water noted now puts its presence at the location examined from the orbiter at within the past few years, not in the ancient martian past.
Life has not been determined with any certainty on Mars. You can't have life as we understand it and know it however without water so this provided a possibility.
The past possible evidence for life on Mars was based on a meteorite found on the earth from Mars that had evidence of possible microbial life forms preserved in the rock. This combined with the water evidence now makes it a matter of greater interest and possibility.
We'll see. I think it is possible. There's no reason Biblically that I am aware of that prohibits life in other areas of the universe.
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actually there isn't water on Mars's ice caps:Swamper wrote:Aren't Mars's ice caps made of water?
If so, we've known there was water on Mars ever since we've had telescopes powerful enough to observe the planet in detail.
Got this from here.Here's an amazing fact: The seasonal polar caps are made of martian air that freezes during winter. Depending on the time of year, more than a quarter of the martian atmosphere can be found lying on the ground around the poles. (The atmosphere is 95% CO2; that's why the seasonal polar caps are made of dry ice.)
Another thing is that if we find life on Mars, then it would be a strong argument for abiogenesis...
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Hmm...interesting.Seeker of Knowledge wrote:actually there isn't water on Mars's ice caps:Swamper wrote:Aren't Mars's ice caps made of water?
If so, we've known there was water on Mars ever since we've had telescopes powerful enough to observe the planet in detail.Got this from here.Here's an amazing fact: The seasonal polar caps are made of martian air that freezes during winter. Depending on the time of year, more than a quarter of the martian atmosphere can be found lying on the ground around the poles. (The atmosphere is 95% CO2; that's why the seasonal polar caps are made of dry ice.)
Another thing is that if we find life on Mars, then it would be a strong argument for abiogenesis...
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The presence of life on Mars or anywhere else is not by itself a strong argument for abiogenesis or anything else.Seeker of Knowledge wrote:actually there isn't water on Mars's ice caps:Swamper wrote:Aren't Mars's ice caps made of water?
If so, we've known there was water on Mars ever since we've had telescopes powerful enough to observe the planet in detail.Got this from here.Here's an amazing fact: The seasonal polar caps are made of martian air that freezes during winter. Depending on the time of year, more than a quarter of the martian atmosphere can be found lying on the ground around the poles. (The atmosphere is 95% CO2; that's why the seasonal polar caps are made of dry ice.)
Another thing is that if we find life on Mars, then it would be a strong argument for abiogenesis...
It is simply evidence that life on earth is not unique in that regard. The source of that life is no more likely to be the result of abiogenesis than it is to be evidence of a common creator whose influence and handiwork extend beyond our planet. In the absence of direct evidence to the cause of life itself, the application of probability becomes circular to the premise which the argument rests.
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The RTB Creation model specifies that the probabilty of intelligent life developing by chance is 10 to the power of 282. Which is basically 0. Even if water is discovered on Mars - it is too late for Intelligent life to evolve because of the timing. And anyway - because of the optimal conditions for life on earth - it will stand to reason that our closest neighbour will show maybe the beginnings of such - but still missing out because it needs to be where earth is and have earth conditions.
Read Hugh Ross's Creation as Science as he can explain it a lot better than I can.
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Read Hugh Ross's Creation as Science as he can explain it a lot better than I can.
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