John 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
There is a tradition regarding the folded napkin in Jewish folklore:
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin, you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day. The folded napkin had to do with the traditional concept of Master and Servant which can be found in various passages in the Jewish Talmudic writings.
When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it. The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating, and the servant would not dare touch that table, until the master was finished. Now if the master was done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard, and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would then know to clear the table. For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, 'I'm done'. But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate, the servant would not dare touch the table, because the folded napkin meant, I'm coming back.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time
without sin unto salvation.
Bip you wrote, "There is a story online Where someone supposedly analyzed the second image of the face of the shroud found on the backside that was recently discovered in 2002 and he says that in this image the eyes are wide open."
Bip, I know it's purely speculation, but do you think that the resurrected Christ folded the napkin (Greek soudarion) while in the tomb immediately after the resurrection event, in order to signify that He was indeed returning a second time? Why would John in his gospel mention something so insignificant as a folded cloth if it were not important? If that is the case, that might be an explanation for the second image on the shroud with the eyes open, that the resurrected Christ who was emitting intense light energy had to pick up the napkin and/or bend over the shroud in the tomb to fold it? So the second face would in fact be the living face of the resurrected Christ?
bippy123 wrote:PaulSacramento wrote:
My understanding is that the radiation emit by this event, which caused the image to be engrained into the cloth, is the same type of energy that God is composed off ( for lack of a better way of putting it), it is the "founding energy" of the universe.
This radiation that is given off by God ( again for lack of a better way of describing it) is why Moses' fine shinned and why the high priest would have to be adorned in gold ( protection against radiation) when going into the Holy of Holies and why he would have to cleanse himself before and after, why when Jesus is seen in his glory ( as the Son of Man) His face shines and so forth.
Yes Paul, and again very accurately described when you said "for lack of a better way of describing it), but I never knew about Gold's protection against radiation , wow!
It also reminds me of the transfiguration of Christ on the mountain top when he shined brighter then the sun. Some scientists such as professor Fanti believes that some form of corona discharge came out from Christ's Body as he resurrected , others such as professor fleming believed it was bio-electrical energy produced by every cell in his body that did it. The simple fact is that no one has seen anything that could produce an image with all of these qualities . The technology is so advanced that even 2000 years later 21st century slime e still can't fully explain it.
That is partly an explanation why the Bible states in a number of places no one in the flesh can see God and live. The light energy would be so intense it would destroy flesh.
I always felt that the two following verses were applicable in part to describe God's character. The New Testament verse can be understood literally. The Old Testament verse is more mysterious. Both can be applied to understanding the light energy which formed the shroud image.
Psalm 104:2 Who covers yourself with light as with a garment
, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain.
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light
, and in him is no darkness at all.
Well it may be the devil or it may be the Lord but you know you gotta serve somebody. Bob Dylan
Every one that is of the truth hears my voice. Jesus from John 18:37