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Post by sandy_mcd » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:19 pm

This is apropos of nothing; it is just that I thought this morning I had read a mention of honeycomb in the God and Science forum but I cannot find it now so I will reference this article instead:
//www.godandscience.org/evolution/design.html wrote: Proving the Perfection of the Honeycomb

Scientists had assumed that the hexagonal lattice of the honeycomb allows bees to store the most honey in a single layer of equal-sized cells, while using the least beeswax to separate them....
Isn't it amazing how smart bees are to have figured this out before humans?
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Post by AttentionKMartShoppers » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:27 pm

What is the bottom picture? Looks like huge pillars....
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Post by BGoodForGoodSake » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:32 pm

sandy_mcd wrote:This is apropos of nothing; it is just that I thought this morning I had read a mention of honeycomb in the God and Science forum but I cannot find it now so I will reference this article instead:
http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/design.html wrote: Proving the Perfection of the Honeycomb

Scientists had assumed that the hexagonal lattice of the honeycomb allows bees to store the most honey in a single layer of equal-sized cells, while using the least beeswax to separate them....
Isn't it amazing how smart bees are to have figured this out before humans?
It was in this thread
http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 0&start=15
It is amazing.
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:The intricate paterns in plants and the construction of behives shows that man is not alone in creating these types of patterns. Seen in this light even the inventions of man can be seen as natural products.
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Post by Mystical » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:33 pm

:D Totally true! The forces of nature are so brilliant! Think of it, even erosion is miraculous. I mean, without erosion, we wouldn't know what our forefathers looked like!

The Miracle of Erosion

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Post by sandy_mcd » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:52 pm

AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:What is the bottom picture? Looks like huge pillars....
The second and third pictures are both of the Devil's Postpile, central CA. This one is the Giants Causeway, county Antrim, Ireland.Image
They are large masses of basalt which are believed to have cooled uniformly. As the molten rock solidified, it shrank in volume which caused the cracks which are typically hexagonal patterns.

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Post by AttentionKMartShoppers » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:00 pm

sweeeet
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Post by Believer » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:04 pm

This thread is based off of nature, as in godless atheism, not sweet.

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Post by Mystical » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:08 pm

It's still beautiful. We should just remember who's really behind it--our wonderful, awesome, all perfect, and totally knowing God!

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Post by AttentionKMartShoppers » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:38 pm

Are you trying to say that the bees copied the designs from a few locations they saw, or are you trying to say that chemistry can be used to explain the pattern of a honeycomb...or both?
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Post by Fortigurn » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:24 pm

I don't think it's the shape which demonstrates design, it's the context in which the shape is found.

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Post by sandy_mcd » Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:13 pm

AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Are you trying to say that the bees copied the designs from a few locations they saw, or are you trying to say that chemistry can be used to explain the pattern of a honeycomb...or both?
When I looked up the pictures a few hours after reading a post, I couldn't remember for what thread I looked up the pictures; yet you expect me to recall after this much time why I posted them ? :shock:
I suppose the reasons were:
1) the rock formations are neat
2) patterns don't necessarily have to come from immediate design
I don't have any idea how honeybees ended up with hexagonal cells in honeycombs.

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Post by AttentionKMartShoppers » Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:16 pm

yet you expect me to recall after this much time why I posted them ? Shocked
We are all held to a higher standard here at G&S...except for me...they've given up hope for me.

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"My actions prove that God takes care of idiots."

He occasionally stumbled over the truth, but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened.
- On Stanley Baldwin

-Winston Churchill

An atheist can't find God for the same reason a criminal can't find a police officer.

You need to start asking out girls so that you can get used to the rejections.
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