Who Do You Submit To?

Discussion about scientific issues as they relate to God and Christianity including archaeology, origins of life, the universe, intelligent design, evolution, etc.

Who Do You Submit To?

God (Divine Being That Isn't Mythological) - Explain Your Position
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Who Do You Submit To?

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Post by Believer » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:44 pm

Hello, whether you are an atheist, agnostic, or a true believer in God (the divine one that isn't mythological), I would like to know who you submit to. You can't have both, so pick one, and I would like to hear your explanation for doing so. Perhaps this will open a field for one another to learn about one another and how they came to their belief.

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Post by SUGAAAAA » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:47 pm

God.



as far as an explanation goes, I dont have much reason right now, except testimonies and stories from other people.

I guess you could say im still seeking him.
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Post by AttentionKMartShoppers » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:50 pm

Thinker, no more starting threads, bad, bad Brian...*WHACK*
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Post by Forge » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:18 pm

I worship no man.
I DEMAND PIE, AND A BARREL OF WHIPPED CREAM

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Post by numeral2_5 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:46 am

This is a stupid topic, no one "submits" to Darwin, his ideas have been improved upon again and again. And I think a few of them were even discarded since then by people who think evolution is how it really went down. Still some good ideas though.
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Post by Forge » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:52 am

Well, it begs the question that ideas were "improved" but you have a point. I don't think anyone "submits" to Darwin.
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Post by ryo dokomi » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:55 am

in a scense beg to differ...the Bible clearly states that if you are not a servent of the LORD and His Word, then you are a slave to satan and Darwin was a tool of satan to get this evolution stuff going...so you could say that if they believe in evolution, that they dont submit to Darwin, but to satan. whether they know it or not...
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Post by sandy_mcd » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:04 am

ryo dokomi wrote:iDarwin was a tool of satan... if they believe in evolution, that they dont submit to Darwin, but to satan. whether they know it or not...
I think the verb submit requires an active, conscious decision on the part of the submitter. You could reuse "tool of" or "unwitting tool of", but using "submit" I feel is a misuse of English and detrimental to communication and exchange of ideas..

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Post by Believer » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:09 am

sandy_mcd wrote:
ryo dokomi wrote:iDarwin was a tool of satan... if they believe in evolution, that they dont submit to Darwin, but to satan. whether they know it or not...
I think the verb submit requires an active, conscious decision on the part of the submitter. You could reuse "tool of" or "unwitting tool of", but using "submit" I feel is a misuse of English and detrimental to communication and exchange of ideas..
Okay, so do you submit to the divine God (not the nature god)? Or, do you submit to satan which Darwin was a tool of?

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Post by ryo dokomi » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:14 am

i 'SUBMIT' my life to God, and am proud of it.
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Post by SUGAAAAA » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:45 pm

wasn't Darwin religious as well??
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Post by Believer » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:08 pm

SUGAAAAA wrote:wasn't Darwin religious as well??
Kind of, but he, from what I understand, lost it all and converted to atheism because of his observations in nature.

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Post by ryo dokomi » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:11 pm

shows you how dumb he really was..the Bible says that you will see God in all creation, and yet, Darwin obviously did the exact opposite...
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Post by August » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:26 pm

Believer wrote:
SUGAAAAA wrote:wasn't Darwin religious as well??
Kind of, but he, from what I understand, lost it all and converted to atheism because of his observations in nature.
It was a combination of things, one of which was his 8 year-old daughter dying of cancer.
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Post by Fisherman » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:56 pm

I heard something a long time ago about Darwin admiting towards the end of his life that he was wrong about evolution. I don't remember a lot about it. Is this true?
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