Kenny wrote: PaulSacramento wrote:
Why? If someone is doing good, why is their motivation behind their good deeds so important to know?
And I guess we have reached the fork in the road and one of the differences between believers and non-believers.
See, it it those intentions that matter because it is those that truly count in the "long run".
No one will deny the difference between doing a good deed out of love and doing one for ulterior motives and while some will say "what differences does it make as long as good is being done" the truth is that WHy we do things is just as, if not more so, important as WHAT we do.
You make a good point, the motivation can matter to the person judging the good deed; a person doing right to please God vs a person doing the right thing for the betterment of mankind (the context of the point being made) which one is better I guess is a matter of who is doing the judging.
Yes, and no.
I think your view is logical coming from the concept that a believer does good to please God and that, somehow ( or at least you seem to imply this) a non-believer does it simply for "goodness sake" or for the betterment of mankind.
See, we don't do good to please God, no more than we love to be loved.
We do good because God loves us and that love "drives" a desire to do good as an expression of love.
We love NOT TO BE loved BUT because we ARE loved.
It isn't a morally superior position either, though it can be argued as such since the doing of good for God seeks NOTHING in return whereas, it can be argued, to do good for mankind is to do good to reap a reward of sorts ( since we are part of mankind).
We can certainly want to please God, I know I do, BUT we don't want to please Him for some reward or so that we hold some "sway" over Him come the time of judgment ( since believers will not be judged) BUT because He loves Us and that Love drives us to be better, to do better. Not in so self-centred way ( we get something out of it eventually) but an other-centred way. Much like it is better to give than receive.
I think it kind of boils down to what this person said to me once:
We ( nonbeliever) do good because we know it is the right thing to do, BUT you guys do it because you are either afraid of God ( judgment) or want something from Him ( Salvation).
I assume you understand why he is 100% wrong, yes?