PaulSacramento wrote:Ken, what is your point??
No one here is saying that energy is God, the Cosmological argument doesn't say that either.
Earlier you said "that something that is eternal must be God because of the way God is defined
I'm just suggesting that matter and energy could be eternal because of the way they are defined.
Ah, now I understand where you got that.
Ok, let me address this confusion then.
Eternal means not only "ever lasting" BUT "always been", it means "self-sustaining".
Now, energy is only that in a CLOSED system ( Law of conservation).
That means that energy would have had to come into being as some stage into this closed system ( the universe for example IF it was closed). Energy is NOT eternal since we know that at some point, there may not have been any energy as we know it.
Though, of course, it can be argued that God is energy ( comprised of energy) BUT that energy is not God.
I hope you understand the distinction.