Are My Actions Determined?
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Are My Actions Determined?
Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
I believe for the most part; each person determines his actionsKurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
Ken
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote:I believe for the most part; each person determines his actionsKurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Free willKurieuo wrote:But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote:I believe for the most part; each person determines his actionsKurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
Ken
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote:But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote:I believe for the most part; each person determines his actionsKurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?

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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote:But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote:I believe for the most part; each person determines his actionsKurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote:But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote: I believe for the most part; each person determines his actions
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
I think we have free will within a deterministic framework. We all have the freedom to make our own choices, but lots of factors - age, gender, education, life experience, religious beliefs, up-bringing, government intervention, wealth or lack thereof, knowledge, and a hundred other things - act as limiting factors and/or push us in one direction or another. So yeah, we have free will to do what's possible within whatever boxes where we find ourselves.Kurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
It is intuitive that we have free will, but I wonder how it is "we" could possibly emerge in a real sense above a mechanical process to then control it? E.g., if fire is the physical process, and smoke the conscious self that emerges, how is it the smoke can usurp control of the fire to act?edwardmurphy wrote:I think we have free will within a deterministic framework. We all have the freedom to make our own choices, but lots of factors - age, gender, education, life experience, religious beliefs, up-bringing, government intervention, wealth or lack thereof, knowledge, and a hundred other things - act as limiting factors and/or push us in one direction or another. So yeah, we have free will to do what's possible within whatever boxes where we find ourselves.Kurieuo wrote:Just another question, related to my one about whether I should do as I please.
This one is obviously important as to whether I can in fact do as I please, or whether my actions are already decided for me as part of some biochemical event.
We often hear positions of those who believe in God, you know the free will vs predetermination.
What say some lay people without belief in God though, I'd be interested?
Such is understood as a serious epiphenomenal problem within a materialistic or physicalist framework.
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote:But, how is that possible?Kenny wrote: I believe for the most part; each person determines his actions
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
With economics, just as Capitalist aren't pure capitalist, Communist aren't pure Communist, when it comes to what we believe; skeptics aren't pure skeptics; if they were they would never get anything doneKurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote: But, how is that possible?
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Certainly can't argue with that logic.Kenny wrote:With economics, just as Capitalist aren't pure capitalist, Communist aren't pure Communist, when it comes to what we believe; skeptics aren't pure skeptics; if they were they would never get anything doneKurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote: Free will
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
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Re: Are My Actions Determined?
Kurieuo wrote:There is no defeating you Kenny.Kenny wrote:Humm.... This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.Kurieuo wrote:Of course!Kenny wrote:Free willKurieuo wrote: But, how is that possible?
What self-proclaimed skeptics don't really seem to understand, is a healthy skepticism also involves being skeptic of one's skepticism. That's all I'll say. If you want to knock my questions up to "making some point" then so be it.
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