Hey, thanks for the new sig. Love it when foolishness is put so plainly.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
You aren't hearing me. Of COURSE suffering is a real issue. I am trying to get you to see that the very fact that you attribute evil or wrongness to slavery necessarily entails that morality is objective. It is YOUR DENIAL of objective morality that necessarily entails that slavery is not evil.whether the ice cream is chocolate or the slaves are brown the suffering is still a very real issue. You still don't seem to able to take this on board. Your OP shows a complete disregard for suffering which I can understand but I've pointed it out and you still really couldn't care less, it's a shame.
But what ought I expect from you. You think our preference for ice cream is a moral issue.
And it's not radical monism, it's dual monism.
There is no such thing as dual monism. You're making things up because you don't understand what you are talking about.
Proinsias wrote:Jac3510 wrote: a. Slavery is wrong
b. I think of slavery as wrong
In the first, moral language (the word "wrong") is attributed to the actual act of slavery. In the second, moral language is predicated to my opinion. What I am arguing is that, if objective moral values do not exist, then sentences of the first type are meaningless. The reason is that if there is no objective moral reality, then moral language doesn't refer to any existent thing.
There appears to be confusion here. As I can read it the first is you expressing an opinion on slavery as is the second, your reading is injecting interpretation which isn't there and you're coming up with something like:
a. Slavery is objectively wrong
b. Slavery is wrong
Where 'b' is me giving you an opinion, as in 'unicorns are pretty' and 'a' is an attempt to beef up my opinion to the point where any disagreement with it will be met with cries of 'troll' or trotting out Avicenna's beating and burning.
Could you be right? yeah, it's possible. Could unicorns be pretty? yeah it's possible.
Yes, there's some confusion here. I can't pick all that apart. Too many mistakes in that post. Let me just ask you as series of very easy questions. Try not to jump ahead. I don't want you talking about the morality of ice cream again . . .
Riddle me this: do triangles have three sides?