Basics concerning the dynamic or temporal properties by which curvature has been theorized? Please, enlighten me.Revolutionary wrote: I think curvature is pretty basic where mass and gravity is concerned, but I don’t think you understand the basics concerning the dynamic or temporal properties by which it has been theorized.
Can you give me reference to a scientific theory describing the "perpetual model that simply pulses with no beginning and no end, for an eternal reference of ‘time’"?Revolutionary wrote: Lets indulge it and accept such a model for a moment and for the sake of argument that there is no outside or beyond it.
This isn’t a static model, we have calculated through redshift that all of the ‘physical’ mass is expanding away in all directions as well as accelerating. By your logic, we have to conclude through curvature that it is either expanding into itself which as a result, brings us back to a point of contracting; or that the curvature itself by which it is ‘bound’ is expanding.
In the first example, it describes a crunch where all mass will once again become the very form by what we are currently observing ‘started’. It does however only demonstrate and solidify a perpetual model that simply pulses with no beginning and no end, for an eternal reference of ‘time’.
Do you claim that universe would be pulsing forever? Based on what do you claim this?
Why the concept of there being no outside or beyond begins to fail? If I look for example on the Robertson-Walker Metric (http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~jpl/cosmo/RW.html) with k=+1, I do not need concept of outside or beyond. Space-time is desribed by the metric. Period. Where is the 'outside' or 'beyond'? Can you tell me? In infinity? Is there some 'outside' or 'beyond' in infinity? Is something 'beyond' infinity? No.Revolutionary wrote: In the second example the dynamics of gravity by which this curvature is formed begin to degrade through an interpolation in spatial density. Mass is what composes this curvature where gravity itself forms the dimension of ‘space’. This is basic physics, the gravity of two objects is both proportionate to the mass itself as well as the distance between them. In an expanding arena, the dynamics of force by which the curvature itself is bound in form begin to diminish where inevitability takes it's course, and the concept of there being no outside or beyond begins to fail as well.
Since you mentioned 'coincidence' I am curious about how probable you find that life as we know it exists. I am trying to understand your worldview, so in your worldview is life something inevitable or just 'coincidence'?Revolutionary wrote: There was a time when our earth lacked our dense atmosphere and it was literally pummeled by billions and billions of meteoroids…..
All we have to do is look at our moon to understand this, and then examine the earth’s topography to see the many large scars it still holds.
Now we have quite a brilliant ‘coincidence’ where life is concerned; the atmospheric properties necessary for supporting life, as well as the properties that are contributed to the atmosphere by that life, produce a dense/oxygen rich atmosphere that essentially halts that onslaught of meteoroid impact. When a meteoroid enters the atmosphere, it becomes a meteor by the immense friction heat of compression where our oxygen enables it to burn up well before it impacts. Without such a perfect balance and every event of meteoroid impact leading up to it, life would otherwise be unable to exist.
Now lets examine further back to where the earth was without an atmosphere and obviously devoid of life….. Billions and billions of meteoroids impacted the surface of our planet, and brought with it an immense amount of cosmic/elemental information in material, until our planet was in the perfect form and properly ‘seeded’ in order to start the processes that would bring balance and stasis in order to support life.
So yes, once again I am dumbstruck by the many brilliant and perfect 'coincidences' that manage to support life.
I agree that poeple are chasing for ridiculous things, trash lives and minds, environment. It's sad.Revolutionary wrote: I will also add something about intellect….. We are scratching upon the surface of potential in what can be achieved…. Look at us chasing our tails round and round for ridiculous trinkets, trashing lives and minds along with our environment, it’s insulting…. If we came together as a focus to address problems and potential hazards (which would be highly rewarding, motivating and inspiring), we could solve anything that we would ever have to face; including taking the necessary precautions towards preventing an asteroid from demolishing us.
Does scratching upon the surface of potential in what can be achieved means that we do not exploit our intellect? I agree that we do not. We could do much better. Some intellectuals could stop being rude, proud, not listening, uncooperative, judgmental, having prejudice. What a fairytale it would be if people were in harmony and working together on understanding how this universe works, how to use our knowledge for good and not for bad.
I hope you do not think Christians do not pursue this goal. Galileo once said: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."
God himself encourages us to explore.
7 “But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you;
And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you.
8 “Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you;
And let the fish of the sea declare to you.
9 “Who among all these does not know
That the hand of the Lord has done this,
10 In whose hand is the life of every living thing,
And the breath of all mankind?
19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Genesis 2:15Revolutionary wrote: If we can’t understand how to balance our own intellect to match the brilliance and perfection surrounding it; I suppose it’s just another part of the perfection where we don’t deserve to be it’s steward.
15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it.
Yes.Revolutionary wrote: Time will tell.