Evidence for God from Science

Blessed wrote:I went off into left field again, sorry about that.

I do it everyday and never apologize

RickD wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:That's a hell of a claim. Citation, please.

Seems Stu has been watching too much Alex Jones.

!!!??? Alex Jones, Richard Hoagland, Dr Deagle, etc....

False Flags, Government Conspiracies, Cover-ups, Men in Black, The Greys, Illuminati, Mind Control, New world order, Aliens living in the center of the moon, Face on Mars, Military Supersonic tunnels deep in the earth.

The good old days.....I digress.

Well, the reality is that there ARE conspiracies and conspirators. But the problem is, there are those who see such things in every uncertain or mysterious thing, because there are so many perpetrators of these, that when a real conspiracy has occurred or is ongoing, no one tends to believe it because "it's just another conspiracy theory." So, we can't always dismiss some things until we have more facts - but that works in the opposite direction as well - don't buy into something without adequate knowledge, see what the established facts reveal, as well as what they do or can not show us. But with some people and organizations claiming whatever, given their history of similar type claims, we should know to be exceptionally skeptical. Many things are totally plausible, but that aren't necessarily true - the great danger of circumstantial evidence in hands and mouths with agendas.

Blessed wrote:All ballots should be paper. 90%+ of Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and go with Russia. 100% paper.
No Diebold voting machines. Huge voter turnout. EU and US did not care the people voted. No reporting this facts by the MSM that I saw. Only Indy Internet sources.

It was reported. What was also reported is that Russian troops had already occupied Crimea at that point. A referendum - even an apparently clear one - is suspect when it takes place under the guns of foreign troops. The situation in Crimea is complex, same as everything else.

But sure, paper ballots would be fine.

Philip wrote:Well, the reality is that there ARE conspiracies and conspirators. But the problem is, there are those who see such things in every uncertain or mysterious thing, because there are so many perpetrators of these, that when a real conspiracy has occurred or is ongoing, no one tends to believe it because "it's just another conspiracy theory." So, we can't always dismiss some things until we have more facts - but that works in the opposite direction as well - don't buy into something without adequate knowledge, see what the established facts reveal, as well as what they do or can not show us. But with some people and organizations claiming whatever, given their history of similar type claims, we should know to be exceptionally skeptical. Many things are totally plausible, but that aren't necessarily true - the great danger of circumstantial evidence in hands and mouths with agendas.

It seems, the Pope is reading your posts !

Just in.....Pope Francis: 'Fake news' is evil; journalists must search for truth

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-pope ... story.html

Philip wrote:
Well, the reality is that there ARE conspiracies and conspirators. But the problem is, there are those who see such things in every uncertain or mysterious thing, because there are so many perpetrators of these, that when a real conspiracy has occurred or is ongoing, no one tends to believe it because "it's just another conspiracy theory." So, we can't always dismiss some things until we have more facts - but that works in the opposite direction as well - don't buy into something without adequate knowledge, see what the established facts reveal, as well as what they do or can not show us. But with some people and organizations claiming whatever, given their history of similar type claims, we should know to be exceptionally skeptical. Many things are totally plausible, but that aren't necessarily true - the great danger of circumstantial evidence in hands and mouths with agendas.

Hamster: It seems, the Pope is reading your posts !

Ah, more like he's not taking my advice. And don't you just love that an army of supposedly celibate and cluelessly unmarried clergy are advising married people how to go about marriage. The CC needs to sanction married priests - just like the Bible DOES!

Philip wrote:

Philip wrote:
Well, the reality is that there ARE conspiracies and conspirators. But the problem is, there are those who see such things in every uncertain or mysterious thing, because there are so many perpetrators of these, that when a real conspiracy has occurred or is ongoing, no one tends to believe it because "it's just another conspiracy theory." So, we can't always dismiss some things until we have more facts - but that works in the opposite direction as well - don't buy into something without adequate knowledge, see what the established facts reveal, as well as what they do or can not show us. But with some people and organizations claiming whatever, given their history of similar type claims, we should know to be exceptionally skeptical. Many things are totally plausible, but that aren't necessarily true - the great danger of circumstantial evidence in hands and mouths with agendas.

Hamster: It seems, the Pope is reading your posts !

Ah, more like he's not taking my advice. And don't you just love that an army of supposedly celibate and cluelessly unmarried clergy are advising married people how to go about marriage. The CC needs to sanction married priests - just like the Bible DOES!

Hey Phillip, you could be the Pope's next adviser on religious matters

It's interesting to note that priests can marry in the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Catholic religions. Why not the Roman Catholic church?. At least the Pope is considering it....https://thenewdaily.com.au/religion/201 ... d-priests/

Prematurely restricting natural urges in any religion creates all sort of problems imho. (well duh !)

The TAOists, for example, practice celibacy but only for advanced practitioners otherwise they warn you to stay well away from it. For Christian Mystics, celibacy is granted, not earned by works:

"When the I-ness takes charge of the body, a new order of things is inaugurated. The vitality is no longer wasted in mere sense-gratification. Through high and pure vibrations, the consciousness is raised to higher standards. “Blessed is he who cometh in the name of the Lord”. The Lord is the highest ruling principle of Man."


Now, someone please tell the Pope !

edwardmurphy wrote:

Blessed wrote:All ballots should be paper. 90%+ of Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and go with Russia. 100% paper.
No Diebold voting machines. Huge voter turnout. EU and US did not care the people voted. No reporting this facts by the MSM that I saw. Only Indy Internet sources.

It was reported. What was also reported is that Russian troops had already occupied Crimea at that point. A referendum - even an apparently clear one - is suspect when it takes place under the guns of foreign troops. The situation in Crimea is complex, same as everything else.

But sure, paper ballots would be fine.

I did not see the vote % reported on the MSM. Neither CNN or Faux News. I thought the Russian troops occupied Crimea after the vote. Not before or during. If so, I was not aware of this fact. Are you sure they were there before or during the vote? Sorry I did not see anything about this important detail on the news.

I can't speak for CNN or FOX, but the percentages made the papers.

Here's the basics of the Russian intervention:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexat ... Federation

Yes, it's Wikipedia, but the article cites over 400 sources and the ones I looked at were kosher. Prior to the referendum Russian troops took control, dissolved the Crimean government, and appointed a pro-Russian figurehead. So yeah, the referendum passed, but it seems reasonable to at least add an asterisk to that 93%...

Hamster: Hey Phillip, you could be the Pope's next adviser on religious matters

Actually, the one thing I'd advise him to keep the same - the hats - gotta admit, they are pretty cool.

Hamster: It's interesting to note that priests can marry in the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Catholic religions. Why not the Roman Catholic church?. At least the Pope is considering it....https://thenewdaily.com.au/religion/201 ... d-priests/

Well, you know how the CC claims Peter to be the first Pope ( ), and yet the Bible states that Pete himself was nagged constantly (was married!) - so, go figure. But seriously, you deny people a God-given outlet for their sex drive, and well, we can see how that has driven so much sexual abuse in the CC (BTW, Catholic clergy are by no means the only ones). It's the same reason why solidly heterosexual men and women often "go Bi" during their stints in prison.

Hello,

11 months after the shooting - still no casino CCTV videos released to disprove the Las Vegas shooting "conspiracy". The videos they have released are obviously selectively hand picked because they support the narrative. They've said all 911 calls were ordered released - and yet there are only hand picked 911 calls online.

I am also wondering about the Hispanic, or Fillipino looking adolescent who told me to "get the F out of here" while erie calmly sitting observing all the running and chaos. Where are the videos from the pedestrian bridge located closest to Luxor? Again - only hand selected ones have been released that support the narrative.

It's like ... this is all yesterdays news, 15 seconds, who cares, everyone has forgotten, next. This is literally how busy and/or short termed memoried people are in their everyday lives.

I am still looking for the CCTV casino videos and ALL the 911 calls about multiple shooters are there are none published online. Only hand picked videos and calls basically showing what everyone already "knows".

Once you're done with that, can you please find out who killed JFK?

RickD wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 pm Once you're done with that, can you please find out who killed JFK?

Sigh. I assume this snarky comment has a point?

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:07 am

RickD wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 pm Once you're done with that, can you please find out who killed JFK?

Sigh. I assume this snarky comment has a point?

Laugh. Yes. Yes it does.

RickD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:12 am

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:07 am

RickD wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 pm Once you're done with that, can you please find out who killed JFK?

Sigh. I assume this snarky comment has a point?

Laugh. Yes. Yes it does.

It's called sarcasm, not snarkiness. And it's never gotten Rick into trouble, except with just about everyone at some point.