Stu wrote:You've lost it and thrown logic out the window if that is your argument.neo-x wrote:You tell me when they are given a soul? You seem to know something no on else does.Storyteller wrote:When do we become a "person"?neo-x wrote:Kurieuo wrote:As for why? Because it gets to the heart of what I've been wanting to know from you:
K. Of course its life. But it's potential at best. Can you take a 3 month baby out of the womb and treat it as a fully functional normal human being? Of course not because even though its life, it is not completely a person yet. Abortion is not killing a person. The life is human but only in genetics and its potential at best. An 8 week baby is nothing like a person at all. So it is not murder.
I can understand that a really late abortion is not good especially in the last month. Obviously the baby has almost or fully, formed. And that point I would Also think its killing a human baby.
However, such late cases are exceptions rather than norm.
Abortion IS killing a person.
Argue for abortion if you must but I really dont see how you can argue that a baby inutero isnt a person. If theyre not, when do they become one? Are they not given their souls at the point of conception? When do they have their souls, if not at conception? If they have a soul then they are a person.
My argument has nothing to do with a soul. Even an enemy soldier has a soul yet nothing seems wrong in killing him.
Of course having a soul is an issue! And of course being human is an issue!Having a soul isn't an issue. I am talking about cases where abortions are justified. It has nothing to be human or having a soul.
You are clearly arguing from an atheist's/evolutionist's perspective which is why you are coming up against so many opposing opinions.
When are abortions justified again? I'm really keen to find out...
You seem pretty strong on stereotypes. Any argument should not be weighed on who said it rather on the merits of the argument itself.
Anyway Reread my post again on the last page.