Ah, ok. I'm understanding your pov better now. Thanks for explaining.neo-x wrote:Yes, I Can agree to that.RickD wrote:So, would you say that in those cases, abortion would be the least bad, option?neo-x wrote:It's necessary in conditions of extreme poverty, like I wrote in point 4 of my post. People don't get abortions because they like to. Desperation and poverty and a miserable life more so becomes the reason. Especially what happens to such a child in these conditions.RickD wrote:Like I said before, I may be missing something. So please, before I can answer, I'd like to hear the reasoning you have to say that abortion is not only justified, but necessary.Neo wrote:
5. The reason I said it's not murder is that it technically just isn't. If you have a justification to kill/end life if you consider the pros and cons, and I am using the same yardstick here Rick, the one you referred to about the Nuking post. That if you take all factors in, it just seems to me that, yes it is also justifiable to have an abortion.
Rick, Thank you for your candid thoughts. I was a bit surprised that you didn't spot the irony in what you said. You initially called me out in the inconsistency that I held nuking Japan, unjustified but not abortion and I believe your argument is that nuking Japan can be justified but abortion can't be. Do you see that abortion can too be justified, the same as the nuking? We're basically saying the same thing. You hold the nuking, justified and not abortion and me Vice versa. If there is an inconsistency then it is in both of our arguments. Or else you can agree with me that they are two very different issues.
Maybe thought of as the least evil choice, among all available choices?
First off, I'd just like to be clear that I have no way of understanding what someone must be going through, to lead them to believe that killing their unborn child is the best choice they have. The hell on earth they must be experiencing, I can in no way understand.
Usually when I think of a moral dilemma, and choosing the least evil choice among the available choices, I think of lying to protect the lives of Jews from Nazis. Or stealing food to feed a starving family. In those examples, lying and stealing are the least evil choices, compared to one's family dying from starvation, or a person being killed at the hands of Nazis.
I have a hard time comprehending how killing my own child is the best/least evil choice.
But like I said, I cannot relate because I'm not in that situation.