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Post by Hortator » Tue May 23, 2017 2:11 pm

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Post by Kurieuo » Tue May 23, 2017 2:43 pm


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Post by thatkidakayoungguy » Tue May 23, 2017 3:13 pm

Liberalism is the new insanity, it seems. It had good intentions and I like that but now, it's gone to the dogs.

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Post by thatkidakayoungguy » Tue May 23, 2017 3:36 pm

Had to kill a lot of kids too, maybe Trump will stomp them out.

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Post by Philip » Tue May 23, 2017 5:53 pm

Like all evil organizations, ISIS and other terrorists need various boogeymen to blame all of their society's problems on - for them, it's typically "the West, Christians, occupiers, The Crusadors, etc." So, to demonstrate to their followers their power, each act is designed to show they are capable of hitting back at the sources of their society's causes of misery. It really doesn't cost them much, and it's considered a good political return on their money. We'll never stop the lone wolves or wannabees. But we should deny the plotters, fianancers and military groups sanctuary, geographic territory, money, oil, whatever it takes to weaken them. And the peaceful Muslim nations need to get serious about helping - to quit turning a blind eye to to radical mosques and Islamic sympathizers in their own midsts, or throwing money their way. Such radicals hate the entrenched Muslim governments as much as they do us. And for a long way time, the Saudis have tried to placate the extremists, as long as their rhetoric was only aimed at Israel or the West. Now, they well know the radicals have those Gulf kingdoms' ruling classes in their sights as well.

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Post by IceMobster » Wed May 24, 2017 8:22 am

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Post by Byblos » Wed May 24, 2017 9:10 am

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What are you talking about? The bombing in Manchester was perpetrated by a British-born, self-radicalized terrorist, not a refugee.
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Post by PaulSacramento » Wed May 24, 2017 9:33 am

Supposedly, one of the patterns that has come to light is that some of the refugees coming in have ties with sleeper cells and that with these more open and liberal immigration rules, it is far easier for the leaders or figure heads that were abroad to come in and finalize plans for attacks.

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Post by IceMobster » Wed May 24, 2017 9:43 am

Byblos wrote:^
What are you talking about? The bombing in Manchester was perpetrated by a British-born, self-radicalized terrorist, not a refugee.
No need to lie now. It is known that those Buddhist extremist need to be kept in check.
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Post by RickD » Wed May 24, 2017 10:09 am

Byblos wrote:^
What are you talking about? The bombing in Manchester was perpetrated by a British-born, self-radicalized terrorist, not a refugee.
Actually,

He's the son of refugees, so y:p2
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Post by Philip » Wed May 24, 2017 11:38 am

Look at who the wannabees are that ISIS and Islamic Inc. are recruiting - whether sent amongst refugees or whether recruited from the Middle East, typically they are:

- Muslim - especially the more un-assimulated, culturally isolated, and religious they are
- Young
- Male (but not always)
- Angry at what they see in Western culture, or angry misfits in general
- Nobodies that want to be seen as important
- Susceptible to ideology and authority figures
- Potentially unstable mentally

What the above tells us, is that virtually anyone that meets enough of the criteria above, even if they have lived their entire lives in the West, are vulnerable to being recruited by terrorists. So, as long as their are individuals meeting such criteria living in the West, you'll never totally stop this stuff. It's like trying to stop all the non-religious crazies in America who go into schools or shopping centers and mow kids down with guns. We've not been able to stop that, so how can we stop those with the Islamic connections?

The much greater danger is if someone can get dirty small nukes across our borders and detonate one. Or they can seriously attack some major item of infrastructure. Over in the Middle East, the challenge is to deny them territory, financing, oil, all of that. Keep them marginalized to the point that they cannot become a serious threat to their neighbors or us. And you don't wait until they are a serious power to be reckoned with before you begin to engage them. Far easier when they are small.

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Post by neo-x » Thu May 25, 2017 1:10 am

No one is looking at the main reason that it is the west's endless meddling in the middle east for decades that gave birth to OBL and others etc. The problem is not refugees, it's the way the west meddle with their elections, install corrupt leaders, drone strikes killing civilians and lots of other things. It's simply a long-term consequence of what has been happening for so long.

To simply say it's radical Islam is only seeing the half picture, why are they being radicalized at all? And why wasn't this happening earlier? Sometimes it's good to review one's own actions as well and maybe learn from those. Not saying people don't hate the west, but you gotta ask why.

You can't expect to invade someone's house and carry your will against them when and where and then not expect retaliation of any kind. That's unrealistic.
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Post by IceMobster » Thu May 25, 2017 3:08 am

neo-x wrote:No one is looking at the main reason that it is the west's endless meddling in the middle east for decades that gave birth to OBL and others etc. The problem is not refugees, it's the way the west meddle with their elections, install corrupt leaders, drone strikes killing civilians and lots of other things. It's simply a long-term consequence of what has been happening for so long.

To simply say it's radical Islam is only seeing the half picture, why are they being radicalized at all? And why wasn't this happening earlier? Sometimes it's good to review one's own actions as well and maybe learn from those. Not saying people don't hate the west, but you gotta ask why.

You can't expect to invade someone's house and carry your will against them when and where and then not expect retaliation of any kind. That's unrealistic.
Look, dude. My country (nor any country in Eastern Europe) meddled with Middle East/Africa/whatever yet we are facing the consequences. The reality is that USA is the major factor that destabilizes mentioned areas and none of us (not even our cucked masochistic insane governments) can impact the decision of such a major world power or impact the cause (the root) of radicalized Islam and invading/annihilating someone's house.

So, we are faced with the consequences despite not being the cause of them....

Aaaand there will be blood. Lots of it in the coming years.
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