You sure have a way with words Ed. You're free to leave at any time if unhappy with the quality of this board.edwardmurphy wrote:K, perhaps you're right. But perhaps the quality of this board would be better if people like you, who are capable of making a good argument and recognizing a bad one, were to chime in when someone whose views you generally support presents their ideas so poorly.
I just think you're not listening/can't listen due to having entirely different philosophical underpinnings. Ice, while getting a little heated, has presenting quite a number links and the like, and has seen first-hand mass immigration go through his state. He likely also hears, even knows people, in neighbouring European states. I even hear many stories that governments in such states and the media often tend to black out, remain silent on or place an opposite spin to.
Yet, as far as I see, Ice is in a better position to know than myself in Australia where we're shielded by sea and send boat people home on their sinking ships. And, if I could make a better argument, what's the point? I have enough headaches in life without setting myself up for more -- if you haven't realised it yet, people 99.999999999% of the time won't change their minds on small issues. I don't expect you to be different.