Nephilim -Mark 12:25

[DBowling]

I agree that the Prince of Persia in Daniel is referring to an angelic being, but not a "son of God" because the Prince of Persia appears to be a fallen angel

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I agree that the being called the Prince of Persia was a fallen angel ( rebelling against God's messenger Gabriel) BUT that he is referred to in the same (prince) as Michael, one of the chief princes, kind of implies that just because the being rebelled, doesn't mean he has lost "status".

I agree that Daniel demonstrates that the Prince of Persia did not loose his status as a "prince". But "prince" has no implication of affiliation, so a fallen angel would not necessarily lose its "princely" status.
However, "sons of God" (unlike "prince") does have an implication of affiliation in both the OT and NT. Which is why (broken record) Scripture never refers to fallen angels as "sons of God" in either the OT or NT.

My point is that I don't know if we can hold the view that upon rebelling, divine beings lose their status as sons of God, especially in the OT.

I go back again to John 8 where Jesus makes it very clear that the Devil (fallen Lucifer) is no longer a "son of God". According to Jesus, Children of God are polar opposites of Children of the Devil.

[RickD]

I think I may have to change my position on this, in light of a photo I saw.


Proof of giant hybrid angel people.

[DBowling]

I think I may have to change my position on this, in light of a photo I saw.


Proof of giant hybrid angel people.

Cool...

The next logical step is get a DNA sample from this Nephilim to see what angel DNA looks like.
And then we can carbon date the bones to see precisely when these Nephilim lived.

This is huuuuuuuge!!!

[RickD]

I think I may have to change my position on this, in light of a photo I saw.


Proof of giant hybrid angel people.

Cool...

The next logical step is get a DNA sample from this Nephilim to see what angel DNA looks like.
And then we can carbon date the bones to see precisely when these Nephilim lived.

This is huuuuuuuge!!!

That won't work because, as we all know, angels manipulated human dna, they didn't actually have intercourse with humans. When scripture says that sons of God/ angels married the daughters of men, that doesn't mean they had sexual relations with them. Marriage in ancient Hebrew literally means "to manipulate dna of someone".

DBowling,

I think you're a little rusty on your Hebrew!

[Philip]

Maybe we can kill the horse this thread is beating and get its DNA. I'm rather shocked at the lengthy posts over the Nephilim stuff.