Depression and Existential Crisis, how to overcome it?

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Depression and Existential Crisis, how to overcome it?

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Post by leo7alves » Tue May 26, 2015 1:04 am

Hi, my name is Leonardo, i'm new to the Forums

I'm going through a Existential Crisis, it's like a depression but feels worse
I Will tell how it started, you guys may find the reason a bit stupid:

A month ago i was searching something to see on my Netflix account, then i saw a documentary called "Cosmos". It made me curious to see more of the Universe from science's perspective, then i started to watch it, at first i found the documentary awesome, so many things i didn't know, but after 5 or 6 episodes, it suddenly make me question about life, the meaning of it, why we exist, and such things. And then i fall into an Existential Crisis.
Then i started to search about Evolution, Curiosities of Universe, life after death, and it become worse.

My dad died 10 years ago, I live with my mom which is a very religious person, she is Christian for about 30 years and always had an incredible faith. When i was a kid i always went to church with her, but when i become Teenager i stopped going. I'm 20 years now, and i trying to ''reconnect'' with God. Before i get into that 'existential crisis', i simple don't care about the Universe, Life meaning, life after death, etc. I never really stopped to think about those things, and now it can't leave my mind...

I feel empty, i can't sleep at night because all of these thoughts questioning life that don't leave my mind for one second. I Feel better at morning and afternoon, but when the Night falls, the feelings get much worse, it's 5:00 AM here, and i simple can't go to sleep, I lay in bed for five hours and could not fall asleep because of those questions in my head. Even when i try to play a game or watch a movie those thoughts come to my head, i can't enjoy things i used to enjoy anymore, because i can't concentrate. I'm literally desperate and full of questions. I got to the point of thinking in suicide, but i regret doing that, because i Love my family, but i can't feel happiness anymore

I started to read the Bible, pray and go to Church a few days ago, it made me feels a bit better, but as my stupid mind always create some question to me to google it, i started to found Atheist opinions that made me weakening my faith. The worst one i found is that the Bible is plagiarism from Sumerian and Epic of gilgamesh because of similarities with Genesis and that Jesus is plagiarism from Dionisio and other mythological figures because they also turned water into vine and are crucified. They made me question the veracity of the bible, and if i can't trust the Bible, how can i regain my faith in God? Are those things they say true?

I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
I know i may seen a bit stupid for trusting everything they say, but i need answers that refute those ideas

When i talk about miracles, like people with cancer being cured without medical supervision they say it's just coincidences, this commentary turn my attention:
"It is a shame that miracles do not happen when there is no question of coincidence. If they did, then
many more people who are lost would take notice. It is easy for us as Christians to "see" a miracle
when for instance, cancer suddenly leaves a person's body with no medical intervention. Miracles
however do not happen when there is no room for doubt such as with an amputee suddenly grows
a limb back."
Does it make sense?

Anyway guys, is there anyone here who fell into an deep depression or existential crisis and overcame it?
Do you recommend something for me to read and stop listening to any anti-Christian argument, good christian websites with good credibility, good arguments, etc.
I want to recover my faith, i know there's people here that like to help other people and may can help-me.

Sorry for my bad English, but i hope you can understand the confusion and desperation that is in my Mind.

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Re: Depression and Existential Crisis, how to overcome it?

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Post by 1over137 » Tue May 26, 2015 4:15 am

Hi.

Nothing you deal with is stupid.
I am glad you came to this forum and shared your fears/depression.
We have here clever guys who may help greatly. Also www.bethinking.org is a great website or site run by William Lane Craig. I am sure folks here will provide you with more.

And yes, there are people here who overcame existential crisis. (Makes people mature, stronger, wiser)

My apology for writing more now as I am at work.

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Post by Kurieuo » Tue May 26, 2015 5:54 am

Hi Leo,

What, you're having an existential crisis?
No, I've never had one, not me, no siree. :P

Perhaps you can explain what you mean though.
In what way are you having a crisis? Do you just mean doubting your faith?
Are you talking about just ending your life because it seems meaningless or you want to stop playing the game of life.
You know Paul himself appears to have had a little existential crisis himself, desiring to depart to be with God but found purpose to remain longer. (Philippians 1:23-24)

From your message, it sounds more like doubting.
Mixed in with a realisation that you're actually not going to live forever.
And can you really be so sure of your beliefs Christ?

One book I'd recommend to you is Reasonable Faith by William Lane Craig.
Also, a page at that site 1over137 mentioned: http://www.bethinking.org/is-there-mean ... ithout-god
Take a good read of that article. I'm sure you'll find it relevant and interesting.

Take care of yourself. Hope you stick around.
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Post by Kurieuo » Tue May 26, 2015 6:00 am

I haven't watched this, but I'm sure you'll find it good also.



You might want to skip the little skit that goes for approximately 10 minutes, unless that's your sort of thing.
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Post by Audie » Tue May 26, 2015 7:50 am

I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.

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Post by 1over137 » Tue May 26, 2015 8:01 am

Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
Audie, this thread is not the one to post arguments. Think about the original post, the poster, his needs and purpose of this board. If original poster is interested in having debate with you, you may meet him in another thread.

Thank you.
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Post by Audie » Tue May 26, 2015 8:17 am

1over137 wrote:
Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
Audie, this thread is not the one to post arguments. Think about the original post, the poster, his needs and purpose of this board. If original poster is interested in having debate with you, you may meet him in another thread.

Thank you.
Its not an argument. He seems vexed by a non issue. Id think it most helpful to eliminate at least one of the things that keeps him up at night.

Im one for specifics, not broad brush strokes.

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Post by 1over137 » Tue May 26, 2015 12:55 pm

To the Gilgamesh:
Rich Deem, the owner of this site, has written down about similarities and differences here http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/gilgamesh.html
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Post by Kurieuo » Tue May 26, 2015 3:03 pm

Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:
Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
Audie, this thread is not the one to post arguments. Think about the original post, the poster, his needs and purpose of this board. If original poster is interested in having debate with you, you may meet him in another thread.

Thank you.
Its not an argument. He seems vexed by a non issue. Id think it most helpful to eliminate at least one of the things that keeps him up at night.

Im one for specifics, not broad brush strokes.
Say such awful things about others. Hmm.
What's awful about what was said?

His statements are completely true in my experiences.
Maybe you should pretend to be a Christian on an Atheist forum for 2 weeks.
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Post by Audie » Tue May 26, 2015 5:50 pm

Kurieuo wrote:
Audie wrote:
1over137 wrote:
Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
Audie, this thread is not the one to post arguments. Think about the original post, the poster, his needs and purpose of this board. If original poster is interested in having debate with you, you may meet him in another thread.

Thank you.
Its not an argument. He seems vexed by a non issue. Id think it most helpful to eliminate at least one of the things that keeps him up at night.

Im one for specifics, not broad brush strokes.
Say such awful things about others. Hmm.
What's awful about what was said?

His statements are completely true in my experiences.
Maybe you should pretend to be a Christian on an Atheist forum for 2 weeks.

Ok; whatevs. If its a top existential priority to figure out why some few people present as, or are perceived as jerks, then it is.

I thought maybe there were some actual issues, maybe not.

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Post by leo7alves » Wed May 27, 2015 12:29 am

Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
I think the way I wrote crossed the line
With this confusion in my mind, I exaggerate a bit

I live in Brazil, here we have some TV channels where pastors are preaching the word of God throughout the night. They receive calls to help people going through difficult times, depression, financial crisis, family and relationship problems, among other things. But sometimes they receive calls from people saying they are stupid, there is no God. With so much hate and negativity. Which makes me wonder: Is this necessary?

But I know we should not judge people by what they believe or not. Theres always someone who pushes the limits. So respecting the others is essential

I recognize that I can have generalized, I do not want to offend anyone or create a discussion between atheists x Christians here.
So my apologies.
1over137 wrote:To the Gilgamesh:
Rich Deem, the owner of this site, has written down about similarities and differences here http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/gilgamesh.html
Thanks, i will read it.
Kurieuo wrote:Hi Leo,

What, you're having an existential crisis?
No, I've never had one, not me, no siree. :P

Perhaps you can explain what you mean though.
In what way are you having a crisis? Do you just mean doubting your faith?
Are you talking about just ending your life because it seems meaningless or you want to stop playing the game of life.
You know Paul himself appears to have had a little existential crisis himself, desiring to depart to be with God but found purpose to remain longer. (Philippians 1:23-24)

From your message, it sounds more like doubting.
Mixed in with a realisation that you're actually not going to live forever.
And can you really be so sure of your beliefs Christ?

One book I'd recommend to you is Reasonable Faith by William Lane Craig.
Also, a page at that site 1over137 mentioned: http://www.bethinking.org/is-there-mean ... ithout-god
Take a good read of that article. I'm sure you'll find it relevant and interesting.

Take care of yourself. Hope you stick around.
Since this crisis started i keep searching for a lot of things and questions that came in my mind, and I think that too much information and misinformation ended up leaving me in this confused state.

But before all this happened, I simply ignored any related subject, I'd rather not be thinking about these things,
but after this i feel i "opened a door that it's hard to close"
but I think i still can take something good about it, and i will

anyway, Thanks man, i will read the article.

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Post by Audie » Wed May 27, 2015 6:55 am

leo7alves wrote:
Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Try to understand why you would think such awful things about others.
I think the way I wrote crossed the line
With this confusion in my mind, I exaggerate a bit

I live in Brazil, here we have some TV channels where pastors are preaching the word of God throughout the night. They receive calls to help people going through difficult times, depression, financial crisis, family and relationship problems, among other things. But sometimes they receive calls from people saying they are stupid, there is no God. With so much hate and negativity. Which makes me wonder: Is this necessary?

But I know we should not judge people by what they believe or not. Theres always someone who pushes the limits. So respecting the others is essential

I recognize that I can have generalized, I do not want to offend anyone or create a discussion between atheists x Christians here.
So my apologies.
1over137 wrote:To the Gilgamesh:
Rich Deem, the owner of this site, has written down about similarities and differences here http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/gilgamesh.html
Thanks, i will read it.
Kurieuo wrote:Hi Leo,

What, you're having an existential crisis?
No, I've never had one, not me, no siree. :P

Perhaps you can explain what you mean though.
In what way are you having a crisis? Do you just mean doubting your faith?
Are you talking about just ending your life because it seems meaningless or you want to stop playing the game of life.
You know Paul himself appears to have had a little existential crisis himself, desiring to depart to be with God but found purpose to remain longer. (Philippians 1:23-24)

From your message, it sounds more like doubting.
Mixed in with a realisation that you're actually not going to live forever.
And can you really be so sure of your beliefs Christ?

One book I'd recommend to you is Reasonable Faith by William Lane Craig.
Also, a page at that site 1over137 mentioned: http://www.bethinking.org/is-there-mean ... ithout-god
Take a good read of that article. I'm sure you'll find it relevant and interesting.

Take care of yourself. Hope you stick around.
Since this crisis started i keep searching for a lot of things and questions that came in my mind, and I think that too much information and misinformation ended up leaving me in this confused state.

But before all this happened, I simply ignored any related subject, I'd rather not be thinking about these things,
but after this i feel i "opened a door that it's hard to close"
but I think i still can take something good about it, and i will

anyway, Thanks man, i will read the article.
I do wish you well. The energy you are putting into this will likely pay off.

Here is possibly a helpful hint, small as it is.

A friend from Philippines calls it "thinking-thinking", that thing one does at night, with half formed thoughts zooming around. Im sure we all do that..

Anyhow, her recipe is..get this.. two aspirin. I tried it, and it works for me.
Makes sense, aspirin affects the nervous system, no bigger nerve hive than the brain.

A couple aspirin takes the edge off and lets you sleep.

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Post by Kurieuo » Wed May 27, 2015 7:23 am

I can recommend something else that takes the edge off, but some Christians mightn't approve.
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Post by Storyteller » Thu May 28, 2015 4:40 am

Kurieuo wrote:I can recommend something else that takes the edge off, but some Christians mightn't approve.
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Post by HappyFlappyTheist » Thu May 28, 2015 12:02 pm

Audie wrote:
I try to understand why there are so many atheists and Neo-atheists that try to destroy people's faith to feel better
Because they're insecure in their own beliefs; it's the same reason many 'immature' christians mock and belittle non-theistic beliefs. Mockery and belittlement can bring a faint, short-lived, sense of security to a person.
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