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Needing some apologetics resources for a friend

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Post by DRDS » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:11 pm

Hi everyone, I was curious as to if any of you all know about any resources for any apologetics groups or organizations that address the topic of how believers should live? Also, if anyone can't find any such resource for an apologetics perspective I figure any reputable standard ministry will work. Just as long as they are not part of the Paul and Jan Crouch, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen hersey club. lol So if anyone knows of anything feel free to pass it along. Thanks!

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Re: Needing some apologetics resources for a friend

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Post by Canuckster1127 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:25 am

I'm sure there are many such resources out there. I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out how I "should" live. Now I just live out of whom God says I am. It took me many years to realize the answers I thought I needed and had with all my "shoulds" were to the wrong question.
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Re: Needing some apologetics resources for a friend

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Post by PaulSacramento » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:05 am

You kind of have to have a few different sites like the CARM and the apologetsics press and others because you will get different views on things.
Apologetics is, at its core, opinion and one must always keep that in mind.
We must read both sides of the argument.

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Post by DRDS » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:46 am

Man alive! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Dude! It wasn't even something I was wanting to know. It was for a friend of mine. And it really wasn't for my friend. It was a question that many of their Sunday school teens or kids wanted to know. And my friend wanted resources. Man, people anymore are becoming so cold, rude and mean it's insane. Oh well, thanks for fulfilling endtime prophecy about people being cold hearted.

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Post by Byblos » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:56 am

DRDS wrote:Man alive! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Dude! It wasn't even something I was wanting to know. It was for a friend of mine. And it really wasn't for my friend. It was a question that many of their Sunday school teens or kids wanted to know. And my friend wanted resources. Man, people anymore are becoming so cold, rude and mean it's insane. Oh well, thanks for fulfilling endtime prophecy about people being cold hearted.
DRDS, who is this addressed to, and more importantly, how in the world did you come to such a conclusion from either post above? y:-/
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Post by Canuckster1127 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:57 am

You're reading a tone in there apparently that I didn't intend. My answer was sincere and it wasn't intended to be dismissive. My answer really is how I view a lot of the apologetics that are structured teaching resources of institutions. Their value is limited in my opinion and experience. It's far more effective to learn and grow in a connected context of relationship and community where things are more caught than taught.

There's no shortage of apologetics materials out there. In many ways, we are an apologetics site, so I'd suggest looking at the main page or home site here. There are many resources there for those interested.

Just hit "home site" up in the top left corner at the top of this page and then look at the directory there.

Sorry for causing you offense. Again, that wasn't my intent, but I do stand by my answer.
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Re: Needing some apologetics resources for a friend

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Post by bippy123 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:41 pm

Bro, I would recommend any of the good apologists out there that talk about agape love and how to try to integrate it into our live
Peter kreeft is a good one
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/love.htm

Ravi Zacharias is another giant in this area.
http://jameslau88.com/love_gives_life_meaning.html

I would also recommend C.S. Lewis's "the 4 loves"
http://www.cslewis.org/resources/studyg ... 0Loves.pdf

You can't go wrong with this trio, especially for what your post is about bro
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Post by CallMeDave » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:58 pm

DRDS wrote:Hi everyone, I was curious as to if any of you all know about any resources for any apologetics groups or organizations that address the topic of how believers should live? Also, if anyone can't find any such resource for an apologetics perspective I figure any reputable standard ministry will work. Just as long as they are not part of the Paul and Jan Crouch, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen hersey club. lol So if anyone knows of anything feel free to pass it along. Thanks!
There is a very good section on how we should live / objective moral laws , etc...in my favorite book called :'I Dont Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist' by Dr. Frank Turek and Dr. Norman Geisler available thru www.amazon.com . It shows WHY there are objective moral laws, how they arrived , and that whether something is right or wrong is in accordance to Gods very nature, character, and Person.........and not on the whimsical ideas , desires, lusts of MAN for his own self centered benefit aka: moral relativism .
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Post by domokunrox » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:09 am

My primary resource is
http://www.arcapologetics.org/
They go straight to the point. No beating around the bush.
I also augment my arguments with Descartes
http://www.amazon.com/Descartes-Meditat ... philosophy
along with Anselm's work
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Philosop ... canterbury

However, my resources more so are geared toward my field. I do counter cult apologetics (specializing in countering eastern philosophy & religion). It may vary differently with you depending on what you need resources for.


One suggestion, stay away from CARM. Their arguments beat around the bush a lot and too many of their arguments are fallacious from the get go.

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Post by DRDS » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:18 pm

Thank you all so much for the resources, my friend said they helped greatly! Thanks again!

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Post by DRDS » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:19 pm

domokunrox wrote:My primary resource is
http://www.arcapologetics.org/
They go straight to the point. No beating around the bush.
I also augment my arguments with Descartes
http://www.amazon.com/Descartes-Meditat ... philosophy
along with Anselm's work
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Philosop ... canterbury

However, my resources more so are geared toward my field. I do counter cult apologetics (specializing in countering eastern philosophy & religion). It may vary differently with you depending on what you need resources for.


One suggestion, stay away from CARM. Their arguments beat around the bush a lot and too many of their arguments are fallacious from the get go.
I agree, Carm can be a very strange place. It's like a "zombie brawl pit" for theology discussions. Little to no progress ever gets made and people leave there feeling confused, hurt and MAD.

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Post by DRDS » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:08 pm

Oh, and um, sorry about that Bart.

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Post by RickD » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:17 pm

DRDS wrote:
I agree, Carm can be a very strange place. It's like a "zombie brawl pit" for theology discussions. Little to no progress ever gets made and people leave there feeling confused, hurt and MAD.
Are you referring to the forum at CARM? I think the main site, CARM.org, overall, is a pretty solid apologetics site. I really can't speak about the forum though, as I really haven't spent much time there.
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Post by DRDS » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:38 pm

That's affirmative RickD, it's not there site, but their message boards and chatroom. It leaves A LOT to be desired. That's why I really love this site and message board. It's nothing like Carm, it's still the best apologetics board I've ever been to and that's what I tell everyone I come across.

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Post by PaulSacramento » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:58 am

The one thing is do suggest is to ALWAYS try to research as many sides of the :argument" as possible, if nothing else you learn to understand where conflicting views come from and why they exist.

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