Re: Who gets into Heaven?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:48 am
On that note - God is vengenceful etc God has killed the wicked....therefore we are made in his image......??? I should get my Axe out. Thanks for clarifying this point B.W.
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
Even through the anger, jeolousness, and vengence(or justice) he is still rightious. Isaiah 55:8.wazatron wrote:Is god just these things? I'm pretty sure he is also an angry, jealous vengeful god? I can find direct quoted if necessary? But i jave resorted to to my phone, besides I'm sure you are a aware of these.
So which is it? speaking of oxymorons the bible if full if them. Anyway, my objective is not to speak about the characteristics of god or the contradictions of the bible, but rather his existence. this was ymerely a divergence from the topic.
God is loving. Barney the dinosaur is loving. Could it be that we often use the same words but with vastly different meanings depending on context? When you hear "anger" you are asigning a meaning from your own mind, not from the context. Will this result in a distorted perspective? I think so.Is god just these things? I'm pretty sure he is also an angry, jealous vengeful god? I can find direct quoted if necessary? But i jave resorted to to my phone, besides I'm sure you are a aware of these.
Just returned from collecting clothes for a clothing drive for Native American peoples and was surprised how this thread grew in responses and views! But back to the subject…wazatron wrote:I CAN HONESTLY ANSWER YES TO ALL THE ABOVE. ESCPECIALLY THE LAST ONE. good luck humanity.B.W wrote:Wazatron,
You say you are a good moral person so let me ask you a few questions:
Have you ever told a lie?
Have you ever made any demands on anyone?
Ever falsely accused anyone?
Have you ever looked at another human being and lusted in your thoughts in a sexual way?
The answer is simple – No – God does not technically kill anyone. If annihilation into non-being state were true – then yes God would be guilty of this crime. However, God does not take away life; he placed eternity in the human heart – he is called the living God for a reason. Our mortal being will die and can be killed, but we continue on in our true spiritual state after our mortalness dies. Therefore, God does not technically murder or kill because we continue on after we die. He designed us as eternal beings. That is his gift and calling he made us and for us. He takes not away his gift of life. Humanity took advantage of these things about God and rebelled against God and sinned. In cases where God set to slay mortal beings was to usher them into a just judgment upon entry into their eternal afterlife state due to their state of rebellion and corruption. He did not wipe all out in the great flood – did he?wazatron wrote:B.W - a small question for you:
Has god ever KILLED anyone? Has God ever made demands of anyone? big difference between a lie and the total innahalition of the planet (flood)!! But thats OK because hes god and has his own rules. PLEASE!!!! PAH.
If you are determined to reduce it down to that, then absolutely. However, this is a consequential fallacy. If you recall my life preserver example.So, once again we have come full circle. The only way into heaven is to accept Christ. FINAL. END.